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[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I didn't say that switching to an independent WOULD compromise my beliefs. Are you on the same realm as the rest of us Josh?

I said that being a DEMOCRATC would compromise my political beliefs.

You do not even know what a Democrat is or a current R for that matter.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I said that being a DEMOCRATC would compromise my political beliefs.

No, you didn't. This is what you said:

"So because specific groups are close-minded I have to sacrifice my other social and economical beliefs...that is unfair."

Implying that you shouldn't have to leave the Republican party because of "specific close-minded groups." To which I reminded you that registering as an Independent would not result in you sacrificing or compromising your "beliefs." Keep up!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

You do not even know what a Democrat is

Of course he doesn't. He calls them liberals!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

How can you not be. Oy - here - read this


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_rights

and then this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas

Open your mind.

You didn't have to post the Gay rights one...lol

And I am vaguely familiar with Lawrence v. Texas, but it was an interesting read (I'll read it thoroughly later tonight).

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by dissention

No, you didn't. This is what you said:

"So because specific groups are close-minded I have to sacrifice my other social and economical beliefs...that is unfair."

Implying that you shouldn't have to leave the Republican party because of "specific close-minded groups." To which I reminded you that registering as an Independent would not result in you sacrificing or compromising your "beliefs." Keep up!

Well I don't understand why exactly I must LEAVE the Republican Party just due to one issue. Why not fight inside to change it? Why are there any gay Republicans at all then?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

You do not even know what a Democrat is or a current R for that matter.

I know exactly what a true democrat is. Zell Miller is a true democrat! Olympia Snowe is a true democrat! The Dick Gephardt of 20 years ago is a True Democrat.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Well I don't understand why exactly I must LEAVE the Republican Party just due to one issue. Why not fight inside to change it? Why are there any gay Republicans at all then?

Please enlighten me on how exactly you're fighting to change the Republican party so that they're more welcoming towards homosexuals. This should be rich.

I find it incredibly humorous that you're even talking about working towards change in that arena when the Republican base is made up of fundies and neocons. I.e. the people who think gays are sinners. They'd be perfectly content without you in their party.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by dissention

Please enlighten me on how exactly you're fighting to change the Republican party so that they're more welcoming towards homosexuals. This should be rich.

I find it incredibly humorous that you're even talking about working towards change in that arena when the Republican base is made up of fundies and neocons. I.e. the people who think gays are sinners. They'd be perfectly content without you in their party.

I was asking simple questions expecting some kind of anwers but I get a smart a$$ comment? F*CK OFF JOSH!

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Well I don't understand why exactly I must LEAVE the Republican Party just due to one issue. Why not fight inside to change it? Why are there any gay Republicans at all then?

"Gay Republican" is an oxymoron. Those Log Cabin idiots are selling out gay rights for the almight dollar, plain and simple.

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

How can you not be. Oy - here - read this


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_rights

and then this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_v._Texas

Open your mind.

Yeah, I was gonna say- I can't believe claiming to be studying to be a paralegal that he has no clue about the Texas sodomy case. But, then I remembered the subject in question. OY!!!!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by The Tower

"Gay Republican" is an oxymoron. Those Log Cabin idiots are selling out gay rights for the almight dollar, plain and simple.

And that is a grossly unfair characterization!

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by The Tower

Yeah, I was gonna say- I can't believe claiming to be studying to be a paralegal that he has no clue about the Texas sodomy case. But, then I remembered the subject in question. OY!!!!

Excuse me for not being familiar with every aspect of the law! If I am the "subject in question" then why am I held up to such lofty expectations?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by markolas

It's funny how people turn out...

I went through a "Republican" phase when I was about 13-14. I also went to one of them holy-roller churches. Of course, I had no idea what I was doing or talking about...I was just desperate to hide the fact that I was gay. Brandon reminds me a little of myself then, only he appears to have taken it way further than I could've stomached.

It was rough. I didn't have anyone to talk to about any of this, so I'm glad that others do.

Yea thanks for the input. I'll ask next time.

[The Tower]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

And that is a grossly unfair characterization!

No it isn't. I've been a part of the gay community for the last twenty years. You've been gay for..... let's see maybe the last two hours?

"Gay Republicans" are so concentrated on the fiscal side of conservatism that they have no problems whatsoever screwing over themselves and their fellow gay brethren.

It's perfectly fine to deny gays the right to marry as long as they get a kickback (i.e. tax break) from the government. Fight from within my ass. The only fighting they do is for the right to hoard their money.

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Excuse me for not being familiar with every aspect of the law! If I am the "subject in question" then why am I held up to such lofty expectations?

Since when has a Supreme Court decision that is the biggest civil rights success for the gay community in the history of the United States been "every aspect of the law"??? Lofty expectations?!!?! Pull your head out of your ass.

[amber]

Originally Posted by The Tower

Yeah, I was gonna say- I can't believe claiming to be studying to be a paralegal that he has no clue about the Texas sodomy case. But, then I remembered the subject in question. OY!!!!

um..it's not exactly like studying to be a lawyer. Just saying. We don't review tons of cases, we learn how to research cases, how to write about them for our lawyers to peruse, how to do paperwork that has to be served on people and filed in court, how to calendar, form citation - things like that. We do work with some cases, (I've had research classes every other semester) but usually the subject matter is limited by what the teacher gives you. And they are rarely sodomy cases.