What's going on here!?!?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

And you seem to have no real knowledge of what deinstitutionalization is or what Reagan did.

Poor Brown Eyes - PLEASE READ A HISTORY BOOK

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by dissention

You don't even know what you're arguing. Deinstitutionalization is a completely different animal from yanking out the mentally ill from psychiatric institutions and leaving them to fend for themselves because you didn't bother to fund the community institutions that would have replaced involuntary institutionalization.

I have been warned and so I know how much you and Jason love to have the last word! So I will let you have it...so give yourselves a pat on the back so you can think you have "won" against the "rube"!

This uneducated boy must be getting to bed now...

goodnight.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I have been warned and so I know how much you and Jason love to have the last word! So I will let you have it...so give yourselves a pat on the back so you can think you have "won" against the "rube"!

This uneducated boy must be getting to bed now...

goodnight.

It has nothing to do with the last word, it has to do with having a grasp on what you're arguing.

Goodnight, Sleestak.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I have been warned and so I know how much you and Jason love to have the last word! So I will let you have it...so give yourselves a pat on the back so you can think you have "won" against the "rube"!

This uneducated boy must be getting to bed now...

goodnight.

Read a history book before you go to bed - rube

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

It has nothing to do with the last word, it has to do with having a grasp on what you're arguing . . . .

a point lost on him and his ilk

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

It has nothing to do with the last word, it has to do with having a grasp on what you're arguing.

Goodnight, Sleestak.

That's what I've been saying.... ie, "more.info.needed."

[macfanken]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

There is no need for me. Haven't you heard? It has gone as good as any way can go!

Hmmm... 100,000+ dead Iraqis... 2,000+ dead Americans... it's been a catastrophic success!

They voted, we captured Saddam, they now have a constitution!

Yep, "Mission Accomplished"... then let's get the hell out of there!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

a point lost on him and his ilk

It reminds me of attending dinner parties and talking politics with someone who has stances on issues, but knows next to nothing about them and doesn't come armed with a single fact. The discussion then becomes as flaccid as Tom Cruise at the sight of a naked woman and a rather uncomfortable vibe begins to permeate through the air.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by macfanken

Hmmm... 100,000+ dead Iraqis... 2,000+ dead Americans... it's been a catastrophic success!

KEN!

I told you I am not going to talk politics with you!

Yep, "Mission Accomplished"... then let's get the hell out of there!

And it will happen, hopefully as soon as possible.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

. . . And it will happen, hopefully as soon as possible.

Hmmm --- maybe we are there because of an unrelated even in 1950 that you can put out there in an attempt to deflect W and posse's current lies for why we are there Of course, Rumsfeld and the Rupub. admin. at that time did actually help put SH in power to begin with, so there is that as well

[SuzeQuze]

They had the trucks with supplies ready but they did not have any fuel in them.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

And it will happen, hopefully as soon as possible.

Is that why Minute Rice just recently said to prepare to be there for possibly ten more years?

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by dissention

Is that why Minute Rice just recently said to prepare to be there for possibly ten more years?

Well...The US military presence in Iraq is going to be essentially permanent. With 200 Billion in capitol investment at stake, we're not just going to walk away from that. Our Iraqi bases are a permanent thorn in Iran's side, and we would be remiss in walking away from such a strategic advantage that, when coupled with our Afghan bases, form a pincer that the Ayatollahs cannot stomach.

[macfanken]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Well...The US military presence in Iraq is going to be essentially permanent. With 200 Billion in capitol investment at stake, we're not just going to walk away from that. Our Iraqi bases are a permanent thorn in Iran's side, and we would be remiss in walking away from such a strategic advantage that, when coupled with our Afghan bases, form a pincer that the Ayatollahs cannot stomach.

Yay! A little honesty! Isn't that why we REALLY invaded Iraq... for military bases? It's been part of the Neocons' grand plan since the early 90s.

[Jyqm]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

Well...The US military presence in Iraq is going to be essentially permanent. With 200 Billion in capitol investment at stake, we're not just going to walk away from that. Our Iraqi bases are a permanent thorn in Iran's side, and we would be remiss in walking away from such a strategic advantage that, when coupled with our Afghan bases, form a pincer that the Ayatollahs cannot stomach.

Brandon is correct: The justification for the war is now, "Well yeah, we f***ed things up by going in there in the first place, but we'll be f***ing things up even more if we try leave."

I believe that's the definition of a "quagmire." As with quicksand, once you're in, struggling to pull yourself out only causes you to sink deeper into the pit.