9/11 - What About PA and DC?

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

The debris was scattered over a large area and one of the jet engines was found over 5 miles from the crash site, I believe. That's certainly not indicative of a plane crash.

CNN interviewed a guy who said he saw the plane burst into flames. It only aired once. The government is trying to hide the fact they shot it down.....and playing up the "they fought back" theory. IMO.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

CNN interviewed a guy who said he saw the plane burst into flames. It only aired once. The government is trying to hide the fact they shot it down.....and playing up the "they fought back" theory. IMO.

Absolutely. They couldn't possibly tell everyone who took the phrase "Let's roll!" to heart after the tragedy that they shot the damn thing down. Funny thing is, I wonder if the passengers could have prevailed.

[estranged4life]

I believe the terrorists crashed it (Flight 93) into the ground to keep those who fought back from taking control of the plane after having their mission fail, The official audio translations used on the Discovery Channel special is some convincing evidence..."Should we put it down now? Yes, put it down....Allah ackbar".

Never heard about the engine being found 5 miles away though (That's if we are talking about Flight 93 instead of Flight 77)...If Flight 93 was in a steep decent with the turbines at maximum thrust then the engine could have broken off easily from the wing due to structural fatigue failure (Good ol' NDT comes in handy still in regards to the structural integrity of a airline jet.)

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by estranged4life

I believe the terrorists crashed it (Flight 93) into the ground to keep those who fought back from taking control of the plane after having their mission fail, The official audio translations used on the Discovery Channel special is some convincing evidence..."Should we put it down now? Yes, put it down....Allah ackbar".

Never heard about the engine being found 5 miles away though (That's if we are talking about Flight 93 instead of Flight 77)...If Flight 93 was in a steep decent with the turbines at maximum thrust then the engine could have broken off easily from the wing due to structural fatigue failure (Good ol' NDT comes in handy still in regards to the structural integrity of a airline jet.)

I agree with you. Conspiracy Theories are a pain in the ass, everyone has them, but they can't be proven...I believe what they say happened...happened.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I agree with you. Conspiracy Theories are a pain in the ass, everyone has them, but they can't be proven...I believe what they say happened...happened.

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale and BTW - SH is trying to buy yellow cake from Niger Are you really that gullable I mean the govt. has been lying to us for decades

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale and BTW - SH is trying to buy yellow cake from Niger Are you really that gullable I mean the govt. has been lying to us for decades

But the fact that everything else, besides the gov., PROVES just the opposite of these insane theories...is enough for me. I don't go and look for some off-the-wall theory.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

But the fact that everything else, besides the gov., PROVES just the opposite of these insane theories...is enough for me. I don't go and look for some off-the-wall theory.

Planes that crash are never spread over a five mile area. That demonstrates an explosion, not a crash So, what is this "fact" you are relying on.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I have a bridge in Brooklyn for sale and BTW - SH is trying to buy yellow cake from Niger Are you really that gullable I mean the govt. has been lying to us for decades

Gulf of Tonkin, anyone?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Gulf of Tonkin, anyone?

Oh who really knows what went on there said the perpetrator years later

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Absolutely. They couldn't possibly tell everyone who took the phrase "Let's roll!" to heart after the tragedy that they shot the damn thing down. Funny thing is, I wonder if the passengers could have prevailed.

They did prevail. The plane didn't end up crashing into the capitol did it?

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

They did prevail. The plane didn't end up crashing into the capitol did it?

Bless your heart, I am sure that is not what the passengers had in mind - They were trying to regain control, which is demostrated on the tapes. But, if you have proof they knew where it was going and deceided to ditch the plane, let's see it.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Bless your heart, I am sure that is not what the passengers had in mind - They were trying to regain control, which is demostrated on the tapes. But, if you have proof they knew where it was going and deceided to ditch the plane, let's see it.

You didn't understand what I was saying. Of course they had no idea where it was headed. They were trying to regain control TO SAVE THEIR LIVES! But the fact that it didn't make it to its destination...means, in some way, that they did succeed.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

You didn't understand what I was saying. Of course they had no idea where it was headed. They were trying to regain control TO SAVE THEIR LIVES! But the fact that it didn't make it to its destination...means, in some way, that they did succeed.

From your point of view, but perhaps not their's

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

From your point of view, but perhaps not their's

Well you know, being dead now, they have no idea the lives they did save. I think that in retrospect...if they were able to look back now...they would be proud that they saved hundreds of lives.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

CNN interviewed a guy who said he saw the plane burst into flames. It only aired once. The government is trying to hide the fact they shot it down.....and playing up the "they fought back" theory. IMO.

They did fight back...and I think it is unfair to them and their families to go on "theories" when the truth is in the black box. Although, if the government did shoot it down, I don't blame them...