Illume Lyrics...

[Phoenix]

Originally Posted by Stevie_Buck

In the song lyrics that I'm finding online, they're written as "Nag Champra..."
What I burn is... "Nag Champa..."
Is that what she meant to say? Does she say that?
One time I hear Champa then the next, Champra...

Has anyone else noticed this?
Or am I just hearing and finding the wrong lyrics?!

She is famous for mis pronouncing words , drownd-ed and CAR or Cart insted of heart come to mind... the live versions bug me from time to time..
"outeside the rain and the CART skips a beat" Does anyone else notice that one?

[Stevie_Buck]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

She is famous for mis pronouncing words , drownd-ed and CAR or Cart insted of heart come to mind... the live versions bug me from time to time..
"outeside the rain and the CART skips a beat" Does anyone else notice that one?

I've noticed that with most of her "H"s...
Is it just me?

Kinda has that French "hock" going on, huh? lol

[tynan88]

Something in my car died last night...

Sounds like a confession

[EnchantedSLN]

Originally Posted by Phoenix

She is famous for mis pronouncing words

I think it's intentional in this case (though for whatever reason, I don't know maybe there's some kind of legal/trademark issue with using the a brand name in a song.) She has pronounced it correctly in interviews before.

[tynan88]

^

I think Nag Champa could be a particula so that is the only reason I can think of, not to mention if it was just a mis pronunciation then it would not have been written Mag ChampRa in the lyric sheets.

[UndoingTheLaces]

I've heard people call it Nag Champra too. I think it's a common mispronouciation of it. It's hard as a vocalist to keep all the lyrics straight 100% of the time. I sung in a band before and thank God people didn't record every single show we did. You do your best but sometimes you get lost in the passion of the song and your tongue and teeth don't go the right way. It happens.

Having said my singers defense, I do recall a time on the Arsenio Hall show when she was singing Stand Back and I swear she sings "First he took my car then he ran". Which I always thought given the strange lyrics it kind of fit. LOL!

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces

I've heard people call it Nag Champra too. I think it's a common mispronouciation of it. It's hard as a vocalist to keep all the lyrics straight 100% of the time. I sung in a band before and thank God people didn't record every single show we did. You do your best but sometimes you get lost in the passion of the song and your tongue and teeth don't go the right way. It happens.

Having said my singers defense, I do recall a time on the Arsenio Hall show when she was singing Stand Back and I swear she sings "First he took my car then he ran". Which I always thought given the strange lyrics it kind of fit. LOL!

Oh, but he DID take her "car" and run. :>)


My opinion on the Nag Champra thing is that she purposely does it to avoid trademark issues.

[Stevie_Buck]

And anyone ever notice how elegantly she says "hand" while singing?
It's very prominent in 7W. lol. It's cute.

There are a few other times she sings it... but I can't remember right now.
I'm gonna have to go through and find all the quirks that I've noticed.
I shoulda written them down. lol

Oh yeah--in the "Everyday" video... does it bother any of you the way she looks when she says "senses yearning"? I don't know why, but I just don't watch that part.

And I've heard her say "I'm" as "am" many times... like in this video.
"Don't turn away--am listenin'." lol

[Stevie_Buck]

Ha!
I just watched the SDMHA video...

"Stop dragging my car (?) around..."

I just love her.

And we can't forget...
"Is love so fragile... and the heart so Haaaaa-O..."

[UndoingTheLaces]

Originally Posted by Stevie_Buck

And I've heard her say "I'm" as "am" many times... like in this video.
"Don't turn away--am listenin'." lol

That was actually a very common thing in the 70's rock scene. I think people started pronounciating words more distinctly in the 80's, but once you are trained to sing a certain way it becomes part of your style.

I did a cover of Castaway for the Gold Dust Project and found myself doing it the way she does "He knows that ah do not see him... Ah could leave today". And of course singing the word mystery as mist'ry. Which I just loved doing.

[David]

Originally Posted by Kelly

My opinion on the Nag Champra thing is that she purposely does it to avoid trademark issues.

I think it's just an unwitting mispronunciation on her part. If you search "nag champra" on the Web, you get dozens & dozens of links, so Stevie is part of a sizable community of "Nag Champa" mispronouncers.

As far as the trademark thing goes, I don't know ... it just seems doubtful to me that she would "work around" violating the Lanham Act by mispronouncing the trademark name. That seems so . . . you know, ridiculous. Actually, I'm not even really sure that "Nag Champra" is protected under U.S. trademark law because apparently the stuff is imported from India & there isn't a single distribution outlet. You can find hundreds of little companies online that import the junk & sell it on their own Web sites. Do they all have written contracts with the India company that manufactures it? Is there even a single company that does manufacture it? Who owns the trademark? I haven't bothered to look into it because I'm not much more interested than this. All I found out was that "champa" is a flower -- so "champa" or "champa flower" is not protected as a trademark.

Think of all the songs that refer to product names -- one song comes to mind immediately is Zevon's "Poor Poor Pitiful Me," which Lindsey even played & sang on! Stevie once referred to Warren as the songwriter who could "write about a Waring blender & get away with it," & she certainly wasn't referring to the Lanham Act.

No, I think she just mispronounces it. She isn't a language person, Stevie isn't. Nosirree.

[Stevie_Buck]

Originally Posted by David

No, I think she just mispronounces it. She isn't a language person, Stevie isn't. Nosirree.

Didn't she go to college for like... communications or something? lol
She must have been absent a lot...

Exactly when did she start drugs?

[UndoingTheLaces]

Originally Posted by David

Stevie once referred to Warren as the songwriter who could "write about a Waring blender & get away with it," & she certainly wasn't referring to the Lanham Act.

And she convinced them to get a BUNN coffee maker during the Tust documentary. Hmmm, maybe she's getting a cut for all the personal endorsements she makes. LOL!!!

Coffee's making!!!

[SapphireSister]

Originally Posted by Kelly

Oh, but he DID take her "car" and run. :>)


My opinion on the Nag Champra thing is that she purposely does it to avoid trademark issues.

I don't believe it's a trademark issue. When this whole Nag Champa thing came up when SYW first came out I called the store where Stevie is known to buy incense and things of the sort here is Los Angeles and they confirmed Nag Champa is NOT a brand name and has nothing to do with the trademark. It's a scent like lavendar and many there are many different brands that make Nag Champa. She mispronounced it whether it was intentional or not.

[Kelly]

Originally Posted by SapphireSister

I don't believe it's a trademark issue. When this whole Nag Champa thing came up when SYW first came out I called the store where Stevie is known to buy incense and things of the sort here is Los Angeles and they confirmed Nag Champa is NOT a brand name and has nothing to do with the trademark. It's a scent like lavendar and many there are many different brands that make Nag Champa. She mispronounced it whether it was intentional or not.

I think the mispronunciation had to be intentional considering she pronounces it correctly in interviews. I guess the question is why.
You know, I realized my trademark theory makes no sense anyway. The opening lines to the song are
"Illume..says the candle that I burn".
Illume candles are a brand...I think?