Terri Schiavo: Please explain something to me...

[Mad4stevie]

Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

If Terri is in a PVS, which she is..then she wouldn't feel or know the "starvation" The starvation thing is something some politicans and her family have used to prove a point, when in fact they know that she wont be lying there knowing she's starving, have any pain or anything...she is brain dead...she does not know what is going on nor will she feel anything

Chris

She is not brain dead. She is brain damaged. There is a big difference.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

She is not brain dead. She is brain damaged. There is a big difference.

She still won't feel the starvation, so that "point" that the politicians and those who believe she should live parade around is moot.

[Mad4stevie]

Originally Posted by dissention

She still won't feel the starvation, so that "point" that the politicians and those who believe she should live parade around is moot.

I think it is interesting when people comment on whether she feels pain, etc. as if the non-recognition of the reality of the starving somehow justifies it.

How is it then that we cannot execute mentally ill murderers because it is considered "cruel and unusual" to execute a person who does not know that they are being executed?

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

I think it is interesting when people comment on whether she feels pain, etc. as if the non-recognition of the reality of the starving somehow justifies it.

I think it's rather interesting that the politicians and the fundies comment on her starving to death, wasting away, and dying a painful death when she won't feel any pain. It's not about trying to justify anything, it's about respecting her wishes, which the courts have said were not to be kept alive.

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

How is it then that we cannot execute mentally ill murderers because it is considered "cruel and unusual" to execute a person who does not know that they are being executed?

Because Mrs. Schiavo wasn't mentally ill when she made it clear that she didn't want to continue living under such circumstances.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

She still won't feel the starvation, so that "point" that the politicians and those who believe she should live parade around is moot.

You think she won't feel the starvation?! I don't agree. I don't mind taking her off the ventilator, but I can't condone starving her in the meantime. *shudder*

[Mad4stevie]

Originally Posted by amber

You think she won't feel the starvation?! I don't agree. I don't mind taking her off the ventilator, but I can't condone starving her in the meantime. *shudder*

She isn't on a ventilator. The only life support she is receiving is her feeding tube.

[amber]

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

She isn't on a ventilator. The only life support she is receiving is her feeding tube.

Oh.......oops....gaw, then they should inject her with some faster thing...

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

Oh.......oops....gaw, then they should inject her with some faster thing...

On that I agree.

[Hawkeye]

I don't understand why they don't just ask Terri what she wants. She seems consious enough at least in the footage I've seen. Just ask her to shake her head yes or no.

[Sugar]

Originally Posted by amber

You think she won't feel the starvation?! I don't agree. I don't mind taking her off the ventilator, but I can't condone starving her in the meantime. *shudder*

Whether she could feel it or not, I'm pretty sure they're going to have her so pumped up on morphine it wouldn't matter.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by amber

You think she won't feel the starvation?! I don't agree. I don't mind taking her off the ventilator, but I can't condone starving her in the meantime. *shudder*

You don't agree with the medical community on the fact that she won't feel any pain? She wouldn't feel anything.

She isn't on a ventilator, just a feeding tube.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

You don't agree with the medical community on the fact that she won't feel any pain? She wouldn't feel anything.

She isn't on a ventilator, just a feeding tube.

see post #88.

[heyjupiter678]

Has everyone seen the brain scan comparison of Terri's brain and a healthy brain?



The dark blue in her scan is spinal fluid. She's not feeling a thing.

[Mad4stevie]

Originally Posted by heyjupiter678

Has everyone seen the brain scan comparison of Terri's brain and a healthy brain?



The dark blue in her scan is spinal fluid. She's not feeling a thing.

Here is a direct medical analysis of her brain scan which I found to be very interesting:

http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codebl...dblogs_co.html

And another link of a review of her bone scan revealing possible physical abuse:

http://codeblueblog.blogs.com/codebl...logs_co_1.html

[Sugar]

Originally Posted by Mad4stevie

She is not brain dead. She is brain damaged. There is a big difference.

That was actually the point I was sticking on, and from a quick Google search I would have to say that this does seem to be the consensus. But what sort of brain activity is there?

No one knows what Terri meant by "life support" or whatever she allegedly said. Perhaps she wouldn't have said "I don't want to live if I can't swallow," but I bet if you showed her that tape you see on the news every night, that was the sort of thing she was talking about.