Martha Freed!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think a fine and house arret is a slap on the wrist for a billionaire who lives in a palace How is out justice system to work is we allow people to lie with no meaningful consequences

If the justice system actually worked, you might have a point.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

They do not! We engage in some very enthralling discussions about politics on here. They're the most interesting I encounter. I've learned a lot from reading posts by Josh, Jason, Christy, Tiff and several others. They have made me look past myself and see other viewpoints. There are lots of differing opinions here--you just don't see that for some reason.

Considering how dramatically different the other Republicans on this board act towards everyone, I think everyone would have to come down to good ole Louisiana to find another Republican similar to you.

regardless I still don't have the time to invest in some of these political debates (which I feel lead no where). So, anyways, I am limiting myself from talking in political threats on the ledge. Wish all the other republicans (if there are any) on the ledge the best of luck.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

So, she's still saying that she's innocent at this point?

Of the inider trading and she is appealing the obstruction of justice conviction - she just chose to go ahead and serve the time for it. Intersestingly, if her conviction for obstruction of justice is overturned - even though she served time, she will never have been convicted a la Ollie North (HELLLOOOOOO DISSESTION!!!!!! )

[GateandGarden]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Of the inider trading and she is appealing the obstruction of justice conviction - she just chose to go ahead and serve the time for it. Intersestingly, if her conviction for obstruction of justice is overturned - even though she served time, she will never have been convicted a la Ollie North (HELLLOOOOOO DISSESTION!!!!!! )

It's hard for me to understand why she preferred to serve time.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

If the justice system actually worked, you might have a point.

Thus my point that it cannot work if we allow people to lie to the police with no meaningful consequence.

I do agree with you that the MS conviction was a witch hunt in the sense that there are far worse out there that escape prosectuion for a variety of reasons - but I cannot say she did not commit the crime. Thus, she did the time.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

It's hard for me to understand why she preferred to serve time.

I guess when you are trying to prove that you are innocent to the public you will go to jail to get that point across....maybe? who knows!

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I guess when you are trying to prove that you are innocent to the public you will go to jail to get that point across....maybe? who knows!

It's called dignity.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by GateandGarden

It's hard for me to understand why she preferred to serve time.

I think she did a marketing study and determined she would be seen as a martyr for doing so. I think it was a business decision. I think most people would act in a second on insider info. if they knew they could not get caught for doing so. Thus, the sympathize with MS. AND - the meteoric rise of her company's stock price seemingly supports this theory.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

It's called dignity.

Boy she sure a whole ot of that when she lied to the pilce in an effort to escape prosecution

Cheap shot I know - but it is true and i took it anyway

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

If the justice system actually worked, you might have a point.

Just wanted to bump this. Her sentence was comparatively crazy...

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

I think she did a marketing study and determined she would be seen as a martyr for doing so. I think it was a business decision. I think most people would act in a second on insider info. if they knew they could not get caught for doing so. Thus, the sympathize with MS. AND - the meteoric rise of her company's stock price seemingly supports this theory.

I agree with you. But you have to give her credit, when it comes to things like that she is a smart cookie! (When it comes to insider traiding and getting caught....a stupid cookie!)

[dissention]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

Boy she sure a whole ot of that when she lied to the pilce in an effort to escape prosecution

Cheap shot I know - but it is true and i took it anyway

I know, no one would ever lie to the police if they saw everything they ever worked for flash in front of them and fall to pieces. I mean, she can't possibly be human.

C'mon. I get that she broke the law, but the punishment did not fit the crime in my eyes. Disagree all you want, but that's what I believe. But I'm sure you support mandatory minimum drug laws, too.

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by dissention

. . . But I'm sure you support mandatory minimum drug laws, too.

speaking of cheap shots actually this one is non sequitor in that your comparison or analogy of a six months incarceration in a minimum security facility to YEARS of incarceration for drug convistions is specious at best.

[amber]

Originally Posted by dissention

I know, no one would ever lie to the police if they saw everything they ever worked for flash in front of them and fall to pieces. I mean, she can't possibly be human.

C'mon. I get that she broke the law, but the punishment did not fit the crime in my eyes. Disagree all you want, but that's what I believe. But I'm sure you support mandatory minimum drug laws, too.

Exactly what I was thinking...sooo lame.

[amber]

Originally Posted by strandinthewind

speaking of cheap shots actually this one is non sequitor in that your comparison or analogy of a six months incarceration in a minimum security facility to YEARS of incarceration for drug convistions is specious at best.

Not really. And what about comparing it to 2 years for assault and rape? (with parole) not specious at all, to me. Another case where the punishment doesn't fit the crime...