Free Speech Takes a hit

[strandinthewind]

Originally Posted by Lux

It's true that as fascist states emerge, the people are subjected to propaganda and subsequently deny that such a thing is occuring, that it is outrageous. Obviously they didn't account for Ledgies but that's ok, they can just introduce laws to legally deal with you as they will. When conservatives laugh at the idea and deny any such occurance, this is just proving effective the government's techniques. This is not to imply that America is setting up death camps and such but historically, if you look at Germany, it would be ludicrous to bring their support down to the fact that they're racist in nature. Of course they were fooled, propaganda works, that's the very point, that the people deny it's very existence. But of course we're just conspiracists, the majority of the world that is.

I think if you support such laws as the one this thread raises, then you can't have it both ways and proclaim to be living in the land of the free. Many are so fooled to the point they don't understand that they don't actually have the greatest freedoms in America. It's so ingrained in them, American superiority, it simply doesn't register that most of us in the western world have it better than Americans. And then to hear all that crap about freedom of speech and the land of the free, oh god. One way or the other, introduce these laws, but don't pretend it's free.

I agree with you on that.

But, I still maintain this is the freest place I have ever been -- though I have not been everywhere YET AND - it is less free now than it was 20 years ago, which is frightening