Liar, Liar, Now You're Fired

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by DrummerDeanna

No - we wouldn't be "crying" because that means that things would have gone as they were supposed to with no tampering or unfair practices...try and keep up will ya?

I really can't say anything to this because of course when the liberals lose..."tampering" has gone on. And this is going to be something constant from now on in America...when any Republican wins, it was by cheating.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by dissention

The only respectable Republicans are Olympia Snowe and Gerald Ford. All others are slime.

Come on - Nancy's vey nice

[ontheEdgeof17]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I have news for you, 4 years ago gay marriages were just as sparse as they are now. You can't blame the voice of America on one leader!

I can blame him for trying to ban them. 4 years ago, 'banning' was not thought about. Now, it seems like so-called Christianity has taken the place of law.

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I can blame him for trying to ban them. 4 years ago, 'banning' was not thought about. Now, it seems like so-called Christianity has taken the place of law.

And the so-called "Majority" sees nothing wrong with that...it's gross

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I have news for you, 4 years ago gay marriages were just as sparse as they are now. You can't blame the voice of America on one leader!

There was a time when the "Voice Of America" also dictated that African Americans had to sit in the back of the bus, and were to carry themselves as second-class citizens.

There was also a time when the "Voice Of America" dictated that women didn't have the right to vote.

Sometimes the "Voice Of America" should shut its unenlightened trap.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

It has nothing to do wth states. It's a rural/urban divide.

Exactly. Come up to Boston or New York and you'd get kicked all the way back to North Carolina if you start spouting your conservative "beliefs."

[DrummerDeanna]

Originally Posted by Johnny Stew

There was a time when the "Voice Of America" also dictated that African Americans had to sit in the back of the bus, and were to carry themselves as second-class citizens.

There was also a time when the "Voice Of America" dictated that women didn't have the right to vote.

Sometimes the "Voice Of America" should shut its unenlightened trap.

well said

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by dissention

Exactly. Come up to Boston or New York and you'd get kicked all the way back to North Carolina if you start spouting your conservative "beliefs."

I know that, btw, I have been to NYC and rather enjoyed myself. But a liberal state and city it sure is! But don't underestimate the republicans there. Question? If NYC is so liberal why do republican mayors keep getting elected.

And besides how can the place not be liberal with a trash fest "news" paper like NYT circulating everywhere!

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

But see, if John Kerry would have one you would not be "crying" over this supposed injustice. What has happened in America where people just can't admitt...hey...your team lost!

Again, this is a hateful message with no basis in fact. We are not "crying" because we're whiny but because there was widespread fraud in Ohio and Florida. Democratic precincts did not have enough machines, in some precincts minorites waited over 6 hours to vote. There were no such problems in Republican precincts. There were precincts that had more votes for Bush than registered voters, which is impossible. In all cases of irregularities Bush was favored. Quite a few people reported that their vote for Kerry disappeared on the touch screen after they tried to vote. Etc, etc. The mainstream media won't touch the story for fear of ridicule and not getting their paychecks. The corporations that own them are Bush cronies.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

I know that, btw, I have been to NYC and rather enjoyed myself. But a liberal state and city it sure is! But don't underestimate the republicans there. Question? If NYC is so liberal why do republican mayors keep getting elected.

And besides how can the place not be liberal with a trash fest "news" paper like NYT circulating everywhere!

Bloomberg isn't a Republican, don't kid yourself. Besides, NE Republicans are somewhat different than those found in the south.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

I can blame him for trying to ban them. 4 years ago, 'banning' was not thought about. Now, it seems like so-called Christianity has taken the place of law.

He actually had "balls" (imagine a president who is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in) to want to define what exactly marriage was....1man+1woman. Not really to BAN gay marriage, but to define marriage between a man and a woman.

[Johnny Stew]

Originally Posted by ontheEdgeof17

The problem is we are saying, "We want equal rights, like heterosexuals do." We should be saying, "We want equal rights because we are Americans." For me, that's a difference. We are separating ourselves out...which makes us look like we want special treatment. IMO.

I don't disagree with you. Unfortunately though, a minority cannot fight for equal rights, without having to highlight the reason they're denied those rights in the first place.

It's a double-edged sword... we can't get ourselves included without enlightening people as to why we shouldn't be excluded.

And, yes, the reason we should have equal rights in this country is because we're all human beings and we're all AMERICANS.
But too often the response is that we can't have those rights, because we're gay.

[Brwn_eyes0511]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

Bloomberg isn't a Republican, don't kid yourself. Besides, NE Republicans are somewhat different than those found in the south.

yes the former mayor of NYC is a great republican, he is just not pro-life. But on almost everything else he stands firm and supports the Bush administration. So how did someone like him get elected in NYC.

[SuzeQuze]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

He actually had "balls" (imagine a president who is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in) to want to define what exactly marriage was....1man+1woman. Not really to BAN gay marriage, but to define marriage between a man and a woman.

rhetoric rhetoric rhetoric

[Sugar]

Originally Posted by Brwn_eyes0511

He actually had "balls" (imagine a president who is not afraid to stand up for what he believes in) to want to define what exactly marriage was....1man+1woman. Not really to BAN gay marriage, but to define marriage between a man and a woman.

And why is this a good thing?