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Old 01-04-2005, 10:43 PM
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what efax number did you use? I cant get thru to Boxer, her line is always busy...and Amber, we need to concentrate on Senators, there is already a member of the House to stand. Remember, we need both a Representative AND a Senator and we have the Rep....maybe several of them. What we NEED are Senators.
wait, there are only two senators from each state, and Feinstein is the other one. But there are many reps...
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Old 01-04-2005, 11:48 PM
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Amber, we in CA have two Senators, and 53 Representatives.
It only takes ONE Representative (from any state) and ONE Senator (again, from any state) to put this procedure into action, namely to consider the evidence and vote on whether to continue or not.
here is a link to a site which lists them.

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Old 01-04-2005, 11:58 PM
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Can you imagine living here and all the sh+t that went on. I was afraid that someone would try to stop me from voting. The R's were sending people to the booths to discredit voters for really stupid infractures. My friends in Columbus waited 6 hours in the rain to vote. It's friggin' BULL. Everything in those posts is true. It was a mess in Ohio on election day. I am still so mad! We had such a strong grass-roots campaign, and it was all dumped down the drain because of the tactics the Rs used to deny people from voting.
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Old 01-05-2005, 07:44 AM
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Sunmaiden, I cant imagine what it must have been like for you...I gotta say if anyone tried to interfere with MY vote I think they'd be singing in a higher octave. Best defense? Video Camera. point a camera in the thug's faces and watch them squirm! Got it on tape? call your local newspaper! Woo hoo!
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Old 01-05-2005, 07:54 AM
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It was mentioned before but it is so true, if any government had enough balls they wouldn't recognise Bush's administration, I mean the US has no problem doing it to other countries when they feel that there has been vote tampering and things don't go their way, why won't it work both ways (coz u have the bombs btw, not because we respect you).

America in my opinion has no credibility in the international community and as far as I am concerned for the general American population as well, most you are totally ignorant to what is happening in your own country let along around the world.

How can any of you have the hide to go and try and "democratise" other nations when you can't get a sufficiently representative and fair system in palce in your own country!

For crying out loud, I could go on and on about American hypocrisy but I will stop there, but I believe it is South Park that says it best, "Three Quarters of The World Hate America Because America Doesn't Realise Three Quarters Of The World Hates America."

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Old 01-05-2005, 09:23 AM
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Election 2004
By Bob Fitrakis, Steve Rosenfeld and Harvey Wasserman
The FreePress.org

Monday 03 January 2005
Ten preliminary reasons why the Bush vote does not compute, and why Congress must investigate rather than certify the Electoral College (Part One of Two).

The presidential vote for George W. Bush does not compute.

By examining a very wide range of sworn testimonies from voters, polling officials and others close to the administration of the Nov. 2 election; by statistical analysis of the certified vote by mathematicians, election experts and independent research teams who have conducted detailed studies of the results in Ohio, New Mexico, Florida and elsewhere; from experts who studied the voting machines, tabulators and other electronic equipment on which a fair vote count has depended; and from a team of attorneys and others who have challenged the Ohio results; the freepress.org investigative team has compiled a portrait of an election whose true outcome must be investigated further by the Congress, the media and all Americans - because it was almost certainly not an honest victory for George W. Bush.
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Bush Victory does not Compute
Randi Rhodes was talking about this last nite. She was so upset, "Well, that's it, Kerry won Ohio." and read excerpts from this article over the air. She has been fighting by airing the data regarding election fraud, the FACTS. Yes, she is passionate, and liberal, but you can't argue with the facts. The most damning being that all cases of "mistakes" with the vote counts favored Bush. You do not have to be a mathemetician to know that it is not possible that this was an accident.

Incidentally, I was watching the Best of Will Farrel and some of his Bush impersonations are on there, including "Math is hard, I'm adding it to my axis of evil.." Too funny! Also, very sad and maddening, that this sketch keeps on ringing so true.
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Old 01-05-2005, 09:37 AM
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most you are totally ignorant to what is happening in your own country let along around the world.
The problem is, we are in the minority. That may be about to change. If the depth of fraud is exposed, and the desperation of a Party who will stop at nothing to seize power is brought to light, as I pray will happen with this upcoming Ohio Vote Fraud stand, then maybe we can begin to stem the hemhorraging that began in 2000.

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For crying out loud, I could go on and on about American hypocrisy but I will stop there, but I believe it is South Park that says it best, "Three Quarters of The World Hate America Because America Doesn't Realise Three Quarters Of The World Hates America."
Every single nation that gets into trouble of one kind or another looks to America for help. They either want our $$ or or military aid or our imports or our expertise or whatever. Puh-Leez. who is the real hypocrite?

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Old 01-05-2005, 10:44 PM
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No no hypocrisy? We do ask for help we admit that, but now we can see the whole world coming together to help these Tsunami victims (The Australian government by the way just donated a Billion Dollars worth of Aid and Interest Free Loans today).

The point is that our request for help in situations doesn't give America the right to go acting like a Lone Ranger, I will be the first to admit Australia would have been lost without America's help in WWII, that doesn't give the American government right on the world though.

And in response to you agruing about what I said about Americans being ignorant, I did say MOST. Before I started frequenting here however, I did think it was all of them.

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