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Old 12-03-2004, 04:14 PM
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I saw it! It was on at 4 AM last nite, I taped it, forgot to check this morning, but went home for lunch and ff-d thru everything else to see Stevie! Did anyone notice her tambourine ribbons? Were they red and green, or different shades of red? She sounds FABULOUS on both songs. And Chris Isaak should do stand up, he's damn funny!
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Old 12-03-2004, 04:34 PM
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I watched it this morning before going to school.....I woke up at 4:51 am to watch it at 5am....plus I video taped it. I love it when Chris says "down and sexy" and Stevie did a funny thing....lol...She's so funny! She looked as GORGOUS as ever....like she always does. I ant to order it and see if there is extra footage of Stevie
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Old 12-03-2004, 10:04 PM
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friggin' awesome!!!~ it didn't air here until 11 am this morning & then again periodically thruout the day, it was a gr8 show, the whole playing of the beginning of "rhiannon" was priceless~ loved all the humor & stevie's was the best "comet, cupid, donner & blitzen", i have ever heard!!! ~ i also orderd it on dvd, i can't wait 2 get it, i thought when they showed the phone #, they said there was more footage than showed during the hour show ~ oh yeah & i loved & the end when chris introduced her, he said "little stevie nicks", lol, how cute was that?
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Old 12-04-2004, 12:41 AM
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Ok-did it not sound like Stevie was singing in a sweet much higher than usual voice? And didn't she look effortless doing it??? Was it just me??? Does this prove she hasd not lost her range? If yes, why does she constantly try to make us think she has lost her range??? She sounded so good and looked 100 x better than any of the times I saw them on the SYW tour. Why couildn't that have been her standard dress for SYW tour? She looked so great. I didn't even mind her toned down air guitar and drums.
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Old 12-04-2004, 12:58 AM
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Ok-did it not sound like Stevie was singing in a sweet much higher than usual voice? And didn't she look effortless doing it??? Was it just me??? Does this prove she hasd not lost her range? If yes, why does she constantly try to make us think she has lost her range???
Call me deluded (shut it, dissention ), but I've never thought she's lost all of her range... I really do think it's a matter of her just not singing with it. My belief is that singing night after night proves to be too much of a strain on her voice if she goes beyond the range we typically hear from her, so she avoids it in order to preserve her voice.
But one-off performances like this are a different story.

She sounded beautifully sweet on "Say Goodbye" too, on various recordings I've heard from the tour... but that's another case where it's just one song on which she's not singing lead. So something like that is probably more "do-able" than singing several songs that way, as the lead vocalist.

Anyway, that's just my theory... I'm sure others will completely disagree!
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Old 12-04-2004, 01:24 AM
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Yes- there are times where she does still pull out the higher voice. I thought it was funny how she'd sing so pretty and high but when she walked up to the microphone and said "hi Chris" it was in the much deeper voice. I also notice when she was singing higher there was not really any vibratto to it-I always kind of wonder if that is natural or affectation?!?
Anyways...sheesh...too bad the early-in-the-SYW-tour-TV-appearances couldn't have been a little more like this. This was the Stevie we all know and love and clamor for. I remember when Rolling Stone did a review of one of the Tango shows and they said something like "Stevie Nicks, the eternal time-warped love-goddess casts her spell again...". This performance made me think that again. F*ck!!! She looked so good!!. And even though she looked a little hippy (i.e. her hips looked a little on the biggish side) I think that dress was more of what she wants as far as "slenderizing black". The sheer, sort of tiered or layery effect worked well...or maybe it was the boots (YEEHAW!!!!) giving her legs an extra 6 inches!!
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Loved Stevie and loved how her dress sort of matched Chris's jacket.
By the way, the little white dog at the end of the show is so cute I guess it belongs to Chris Isaak.
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I havent seen the special yet. However on the debate of Stevie's range. Almost all singers after 30 years in the business will lose some range, it's inevitable. I recently saw Whitney Houston on some show and although she sounded great, she most definately lost some of her range. I have a friend who sings in a band and on some nights she sounds awesome (her Silver Springs is great) and on some nights, well even she knows it just was not happening. She says that some days her voice just does not want to get up and go to work.

After seeing some 12 SYW shows the only one I can think of where Stevie was a tad off was the Nassau Coliseum show. Another instance is Stevie's storytellers. I was at the taping and that voice was all over that damn room. When she sang HAEWAFY, I got chills she reminded me of Streisand (whom I'm not a fan of), the effect was overwhelming. However when I viewed the show on TV, it sounded like a different taping.
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Ok-did it not sound like Stevie was singing in a sweet much higher than usual voice? And didn't she look effortless doing it??? Was it just me??? Does this prove she hasd not lost her range? If yes, why does she constantly try to make us think she has lost her range???
but I also thought it was just my over sensitive ears...Her voice did sound a bit higher than what I have heard as of late (As compared to the SYW shows/concerts)

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By the way, the little white dog at the end of the show is so cute I guess it belongs to Chris Isaak.
I saw Chris Isaak perform in San Francisco this past Thurs. night and I got to meet him afterward. The dog is actually his personal assistant's dog, but as she said, "Chris thinks it's his dog." It's so cute. I got a picture of it. He brought it out on stage for the last song, but it got up and walked backstage again. I guess it didn't feel like entertaining that night.

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Call me deluded (shut it, dissention ), but I've never thought she's lost all of her range... I really do think it's a matter of her just not singing with it. My belief is that singing night after night proves to be too much of a strain on her voice if she goes beyond the range we typically hear from her, so she avoids it in order to preserve her voice.
But one-off performances like this are a different story.
Hi, Deluded!

Of course she hasn't lost all of her range, otherwise she'd never be singing amazing versions of Beautiful Child. But she's lost a LOT of her range from misusing her voice for years. Anyone who tries to say that her current voice is just from aging is nuts, she killed that voice of hers and it's a bloody miracle that she can even speak, let alone sing a song. If she had sung properly, she'd probably only have lost a fraction of what she has. Look at Ann Wilson or Patti Labelle or Cyndi Lauper or Debbie Harry or Linda Ronstadt or Martha Davis. Between them, they haven't lost much range at all because while they knew when not to f*ck with their voices and they knew how to sing properly; they learned one way or another. Stevie didn't learn until the nineties and that was when most of the damage had been done. I wince when I hear those reels where she says she takes care of her voice with cough drops and when she breathes in moist air to "open up" her voice. No wonder she had a sore throat constantly.

I've taken voice lessons for years and the worst thing to do is to sing with your throat. When you start doing that, your voice starts shredding, cracking, and running out of steam by the third or fourth song. You lose your range for that night and if you keep up, you lose more and more eventually. The reason Julie Andrews had so many vocal problems is because she didn't song properly for quite a long time.
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Of course she hasn't lost all of her range, otherwise she'd never be singing amazing versions of Beautiful Child. But she's lost a LOT of her range from misusing her voice for years. Anyone who tries to say that her current voice is just from aging is nuts, she killed that voice of hers and it's a bloody miracle that she can even speak, let alone sing a song. If she had sung properly, she'd probably only have lost a fraction of what she has. Look at Ann Wilson or Patti Labelle or Cyndi Lauper or Debbie Harry or Linda Ronstadt or Martha Davis. Between them, they haven't lost much range at all because while they knew when not to f*ck with their voices and they knew how to sing properly; they learned one way or another. Stevie didn't learn until the nineties and that was when most of the damage had been done. I wince when I hear those reels where she says she takes care of her voice with cough drops and when she breathes in moist air to "open up" her voice. No wonder she had a sore throat constantly.

I've taken voice lessons for years and the worst thing to do is to sing with your throat. When you start doing that, your voice starts shredding, cracking, and running out of steam by the third or fourth song. You lose your range for that night and if you keep up, you lose more and more eventually. The reason Julie Andrews had so many vocal problems is because she didn't song properly for quite a long time.
Ugh...vomit vomit vomit...(this is me, agreeing with Dissention...it hurts my everything ). He's right on. YEARS and YEARS she screamed out Rhiannon and a myriad of other songs. She never had formal training until recent years and had she not received that formal training, I fear her voice would be shot to sh*t by now. However, I love Stevie's voice...always have.. always will. But, had she properly breathed and sang from her diaphragm and not her throat, we might be hearing a different Stevie now. I kind of like her as she is though
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Ugh...vomit vomit vomit...(this is me, agreeing with Dissention...it hurts my everything ). He's right on. YEARS and YEARS she screamed out Rhiannon and a myriad of other songs. She never had formal training until recent years and had she not received that formal training, I fear her voice would be shot to sh*t by now. However, I love Stevie's voice...always have.. always will. But, had she properly breathed and sang from her diaphragm and not her throat, we might be hearing a different Stevie now. I kind of like her as she is though
Yeah, but so what? that didn't happen, and we have millions of great performances because of it. And now we have this Stevie. I mean, it's not as though by talking about it we can go back in time and make Stevie sing properly (thank goodness) You know, Stevie shoulda done this and that, blah. Well, she didn't, we have still an astonishing number of incredible performances, and get over it!
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Yeah, but so what? that didn't happen, and we have millions of great performances because of it. And now we have this Stevie. I mean, it's not as though by talking about it we can go back in time and make Stevie sing properly (thank goodness) You know, Stevie shoulda done this and that, blah. Well, she didn't, we have still an astonishing number of incredible performances, and get over it!
Aren't you the one who thinks Stevie should wish for her range and mobility back?

This place is here for discussion and if people want to bring up her voice and how it has or hasn't lost range, they're welcome to.
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