Capital Punishment

[tommer]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

Now you see this is where I'm different then most people. I will read soemthing put so eloquently by Amber and go hmm that makes a lot of sense. And retract what I said earlier (but I'm still generally opposed to abortion) But someone like Dissention is so glued to being ultra liberal all the time, they just won't be flexible.

dude, why do you use the term Liberal like it's a curse, when in fact it's a great virtue? don't you know that liberalism is the foundation of a modern society?

[Hawkeye]

Originally Posted by tommer

dude, why do you use the term Liberal like it's a curse, when in fact it's a great virtue? don't you know that liberalism is the foundation of a modern society?

I never said it was bad.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by Hawkeye

I just knew you'd chime in with some stupid crap like that again. How can you possibly care more about ****ing murderers then a baby. HOW. didn't you go on and on about killing babys in Iraq or something. But you support abortion.

And should I be surprised that you'd chime in with something so illogical?

I never said I "cared" more about murderers than I did about babies. Two, three, or four month old fetuses are not babies to me, whether you like it or not. I support a woman's right to not have a child, I do not support abortion as a means of birth control; those are two wildly different things, but then you probably see it as just a black and white issue, when it isn't.

I see a stark difference between aborting a fetus that would not be supported by its parents, emotionally and monetarily, and could have a terrible life, and killing a living, breathing human being by the electric chair. Women do not have abortions because they want to, they have abortions because they have to; because every woman lives under a different set of circumstances than another. If that means that they cannot support a baby, it's their right to abort it instead of exposing the child to the harsh circumstances that live under.

I also see a big difference between bombing a country that never attacked us, never threatened us, and killing babies over there as a result. I could point out your clear hypocrisy by bringing up your support for Iraq, whether you do or not at this point, which in turn would make you supportive of killing babies. But see, your point wasn't a point at all and has nothing to do with the capital punishment versus abortion debate.