Vice-Presidential Debate

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

That was sleazy of him.

No, it was true.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

No, it was true.

Hey. Give him that. We've only sustained 50% of the casualties right?

[DrummerDeanna]

This is definitely more entertaining than the pres. debate last week

[gldstwmn]

Voted against Head Start and freeing Nelson Mandela? Ouch. You got served there, Dick.

[gldstwmn]

This moderator is horrid.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

This moderator is horrid.

You thought so? Her questions were better than Leher's by leaps and bounds and she really stuck it to both of them; I almost choked when she slammed Cheney on the air. She was a good moderator, in my eyes. And she's better than Charles Gibson any day of the week.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dissention

You thought so? Her questions were better than Leher's by leaps and bounds and she really stuck it to both of them; I almost choked when she slammed Cheney on the air. She was a good moderator, in my eyes. And she's better than Charles Gibson any day of the week.

Asking Cheney if John Edwards was "part of the problem" is not unbiased. She's a friend of Condoleeza Rice.

[dissention]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Voted against Head Start and freeing Nelson Mandela? Ouch. You got served there, Dick.

And Meals On Wheels.

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Hey. Give him that. We've only sustained 50% of the casualties right?

Touche. I'm flipping around though; they've already lost my interest.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer

Touche. I'm flipping around though; they've already lost my interest.

Good for you. Cheney has laid a great big steaming turd of lies on the stage. It ain't pretty.

[sparky]

Some barbed comments, but they both seem very cool and calm. Dullsville.

[diamondsnake]

Edwards came off as a jerk and I didn't know what to think of Chaney when he refused to talk about Same Sex relationships and just thanked Edwards for his "Kind words" about his daughter. That whole thing seemed odd. Was Edwards trying to push Chaney's buttons by going on and on about the fact that Chaney's daughter is gay?

And while we are on the topic Edwards says that marriage is between a man and a woman but same sex relationships should have benefits like visitation rights in the hospital and money when a person dies. Okay, so what is the difference between those benefits and the benefits a married couple gets? Isn't a marriage just a relationship with a few legal benefits? So basically, they just don't want to call it a marriage they want to find a new name for unions between two men or two women? So, was that a way for him to please people on both sides of this topic? I didn't really understand what he beleived.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Okay, so what is the difference between those benefits and the benefits a married couple gets? Isn't a marriage just a relationship with a few legal benefits? So basically, they just don't want to call it a marriage they want to find a new name for unions between two men or two women? So, was that a way for him to please people on both sides of this topic? I didn't really understand what he beleived.

What I got from it, based on Edwards' comments tonight and previously is they PERSONALLY both believe, based on their own morals--whatever, that marriage should be between a man and a woman...although they do not believe in it, they wont stand in the way of it. They wont sign constitutional ammendments banning gay marriage, like Bush has agreed to do...Edwards made that clear tonight---they might personally disagree with gay marriage, but are for giving gays rights, the same rights as married couples..

Although I do not believe, throughout this entire campaign that Kerry/Edwards have been exactly FOR same sex marriage legalization---they have always stayed on the stance of UNIONS, instead-- It was interesting Cheney said they think it should be a States issue, and that is precisely the stance Kerry/Edwards have taken throughout the campaign--and Bush has been opposed to that...all of a sudden tonight they are for it?

Chris

[dissention]

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Edwards came off as a jerk and I didn't know what to think of Chaney when he refused to talk about Same Sex relationships and just thanked Edwards for his "Kind words" about his daughter. That whole thing seemed odd. Was Edwards trying to push Chaney's buttons by going on and on about the fact that Chaney's daughter is gay?

Push buttons? No, it's common knowledge that Cheney's daughter is gay and that Cheney and his wife (who used to write lesbian sex novels) don't agree with Bush's amendment to ban gay marriage. I think Edwards was trying to get at the fact that Cheney supports this guy and is his number one cheerleader even though they disagree on such big issues. Cheney has no spine.

And if Edwards came off bad enough for you to support Bush, I'm shocked. You've said you don't like Bush one bit, then you contradict it. Who do you support? I'm curious.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Edwards came off as a jerk and I didn't know what to think of Chaney when he refused to talk about Same Sex relationships and just thanked Edwards for his "Kind words" about his daughter. That whole thing seemed odd. Was Edwards trying to push Chaney's buttons by going on and on about the fact that Chaney's daughter is gay?

Edwards was trying to bring light to Cheney's own hipocrisy on the subject. It's disgusting that Cheney would sell out his own daughter for his political ideology. But that pretty much sums up his character.