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Old 09-18-2004, 11:19 AM
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If you have had the opportunity of seeing Stevie up close recently and it seems as if many Ledgies have (during SYW shows), I don't know how you could deny how beautiful she was and IS. No, she no longer looks like a 30 year old woman, but if only women 30 and younger are beautiful - we have a VERY NARROW perception of beauty.

I saw her in July from about 5 feet away and she is really jaw dropping in my opinion.
Especially during Sara- she is no less gorgeous then she is in the video played in the background. She is just stunning.
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Old 09-18-2004, 12:05 PM
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Well what is making her look matronly? And what is Debbie doing that Stevie isn't?
What is making her look matronly ? Schlumpy shoes and an extra 30 pounds, for starters. And some of her clothes tend to make her look a little lumpy. All the layers add up and bulk her up, and seem to affect the way she moves. She can get wound up, peppy, and animated (mostly during SB), but often on stage she doesn't display a lot of physicality. Bad hip, sore feet, whatever the cause - she just doesn't move like a young person. I can't imagine her going on a hike, running, riding a bike, swimming, or doing other things that a vital, fit, and (IMO) sexy person would do.

Debbie Harry, on the other hand, seems to be cat-like, lithe, and electrified. There's a physical confidence that radiates from her. She comes off scrappy, wiry, and spunky. If she was pissed, I think she'd try to kick my ass and would get in a few good punches. And I'm in pretty damned good shape. I often fear Stevie is going to fall over on stage. Miss Deb is markedly thicker than 20 years ago herself, but she just carries herself differently. Even though that face lift was a little tight, she just looks sharp and vigorous.

Stevie is, without a doubt, beautiful. There are moments when she projects the same vibe that she did in her prime. But overall, she has a different aura about her now. It's a calmer, earth mother thing. She seems to have relaxed into it and is evidently comfortable with it. More power to her. All bow before the Queen, LOL. Sex kitten ? Nope. Not in a good twenty years. Who cares ? She was the best of the best when she was that person. Times change. I don't think she has any desire to be that woman anymore. It's a lot of work, I am sure.

As far as Howard Stern goes - of course he talks about her "hot" days. The man is a thirteen year old Id gone mad. That's his schtick. He likes women who are rail thin, with imlants, lip jobs, and not much brains. He knows his audience - typical 18-34 year old straight guys. That's what most of them fantasize about too. It's reality. That's what most guys like.

For the record, I like Howard. I used to listen to him all the time. The way he calls sacred celebrities out on the carpet is a riot. He certainly crosses the line into mean sometimes, but that's what an out of control Id does. I don't listen to him much anymore - the constant fixation Jenna Jameson type bimbos and strippers gets on my nerves. But I appreciate his show. And I think Robin Quivers is fantastic.
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Old 09-18-2004, 12:21 PM
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I saw her in July from about 5 feet away and she is really jaw dropping in my opinion.
She had a glazed-over look in her eyes. She didn't look at the people in front of her, but seemed to be gazing off into the distance, as if in a drugged haze.

She's still pretty, though. Jake could get her into much better shape in six months.
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Old 09-18-2004, 01:17 PM
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I remember Howard talking about tying Stevie up in a chair and doing things with her?

Was this with just Mick?

There was also something with Lindsey and his hair...wasn't that with Lindsey alone or that also the same interview? I have it on cassette but I can't listen to it because the cassette player in my car broke.
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Old 09-18-2004, 01:28 PM
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>>I remember Howard talking about tying Stevie up in a chair and doing things with her?
Was this with just Mick?
There was also something with Lindsey and his hair...wasn't that with Lindsey alone or that also the same interview? I have it on cassette but I can't listen to it because the cassette player in my car broke.>>

Yeah the tie-up talk was on another interview w/ just Mick, I think.

I believe they did comment on L's hair in the 1990 one, but I know there is a Stern interview w/ just Lindsey out there. Do you have that interview, Janet? Will trade for that.

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Old 09-18-2004, 03:23 PM
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Debbie Harry, on the other hand, seems to be cat-like, lithe, and electrified. There's a physical confidence that radiates from her. She comes off scrappy, wiry, and spunky. If she was pissed, I think she'd try to kick my ass and would get in a few good punches. And I'm in pretty damned good shape. I often fear Stevie is going to fall over on stage. Miss Deb is markedly thicker than 20 years ago herself, but she just carries herself differently. Even though that face lift was a little tight, she just looks sharp and vigorous..

Debbie's know to have become quite Zaftig at times, then usually gets surgery....Also, as some reviewer pointed out...Debbie's never really been a good dancer....my point with this being that, I think Stevie wore herself out much more...she was touring before, and after Blondie was, all the time, with her own career and with FMac, always busy, busy....and being a good dancer I don't think Debbie's worn down nearly as much. Which is good...but also I think Stevie's live performance back in the day absolutely cannot be equaled, so, i kinda don't mind that she wore herself down, it was for a great cause... oh, by the way, I love, love, love Debbie...also, isn't Debbie a few years younger?
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Old 09-18-2004, 03:46 PM
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That's because her usual make-up is LOTS of pancake make-up.
Uhm, it's called "stage makeup." Every broadway actress (and most of the actors!) wears it. As do opera stars.

Most female performers over 40 wear it, too. Tina Turner wears it. Cher wears it. Debbie Harry wears it (it was evident on VH1's Divas special).

Skin becomes more pale as we age, because we have less pigment, and Stevie has a pale complexion to begin with. Combine that with the harsh klieg lights, and all you'd see are eyes and lips.
So she wears the foundation.

When you see her in candid pics, wearing the type of makeup I assume she always wears off-stage, it's not thick or pancaked.

I really don't understand what the big deal is, but then, I usually don't.
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Old 09-18-2004, 10:31 PM
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And what is Debbie doing that Stevie isn't?
Face lifts. A damn good one too.

Now I'm not saying that Stevie should do this (to each his own), but if she were to ever really consider it...call and get a refferal from Debbie.

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Old 09-18-2004, 10:51 PM
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Face lifts. A damn good one too.

Now I'm not saying that Stevie should do this (to each his own), but if she were to ever really consider it...call and get a refferal from Debbie.

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See, I think Debbie H. looks a little ragged even after her face lift. I think Stevie lloks FAR better. But, to each their own I guess
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Old 09-18-2004, 10:57 PM
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What is making her look matronly ? Schlumpy shoes and an extra 30 pounds, for starters. And some of her clothes tend to make her look a little lumpy. All the layers add up and bulk her up, and seem to affect the way she moves. She can get wound up, peppy, and animated (mostly during SB), but often on stage she doesn't display a lot of physicality. Bad hip, sore feet, whatever the cause - she just doesn't move like a young person. I can't imagine her going on a hike, running, riding a bike, swimming, or doing other things that a vital, fit, and (IMO) sexy person would do.

Debbie Harry, on the other hand, seems to be cat-like, lithe, and electrified. There's a physical confidence that radiates from her. She comes off scrappy, wiry, and spunky. If she was pissed, I think she'd try to kick my ass and would get in a few good punches. And I'm in pretty damned good shape. I often fear Stevie is going to fall over on stage. Miss Deb is markedly thicker than 20 years ago herself, but she just carries herself differently. Even though that face lift was a little tight, she just looks sharp and vigorous.

Stevie is, without a doubt, beautiful. There are moments when she projects the same vibe that she did in her prime. But overall, she has a different aura about her now. It's a calmer, earth mother thing. She seems to have relaxed into it and is evidently comfortable with it. More power to her. All bow before the Queen, LOL. Sex kitten ? Nope. Not in a good twenty years. Who cares ? She was the best of the best when she was that person. Times change. I don't think she has any desire to be that woman anymore. It's a lot of work, I am sure.

As far as Howard Stern goes - of course he talks about her "hot" days. The man is a thirteen year old Id gone mad. That's his schtick. He likes women who are rail thin, with imlants, lip jobs, and not much brains. He knows his audience - typical 18-34 year old straight guys. That's what most of them fantasize about too. It's reality. That's what most guys like.

For the record, I like Howard. I used to listen to him all the time. The way he calls sacred celebrities out on the carpet is a riot. He certainly crosses the line into mean sometimes, but that's what an out of control Id does. I don't listen to him much anymore - the constant fixation Jenna Jameson type bimbos and strippers gets on my nerves. But I appreciate his show. And I think Robin Quivers is fantastic.
Well I would rather have her wear tennis shoes and have her dance around more then wear platforms and have her just stand at her mic. I'm not looking at her feet anyways!

And I agree Stevie has put on a few pounds- or maybe it is just the insane amount of layers. For all we know she is 90 pounds under all those capes and shawls! From candid photos she looks like she has gained weight since the Dance, but on Live in Boston she looks about the same weight. I think maybe the candid photos are just taken from unflattering angles (looking up).

And I know everyone thinks the Stevie fans are just making excuses- but I really think she is trying to give Lindsey the spotlight this tour. How come on Stand Back she becomes her old thirty-year old energetic self again? I mean you can't just turn it on unless you have it to begin with! So I think she is trying to tone down the twirls so she doesn't steal Lindsey's thunder. That is just my opinion- but I guess we will see the next time she goes on a solo tour.
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also, isn't Debbie a few years younger?
Debbie's actually a few years older. I think she's 60. Don't quote me on that, though.
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Debbie's actually a few years older. I think she's 60. Don't quote me on that, though.
She turns 60 next year.
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How come on Stand Back she becomes her old thirty-year old energetic self again? I mean you can't just turn it on unless you have it to begin with! So I think she is trying to tone down the twirls so she doesn't steal Lindsey's thunder.
It's one thing to put out for 8 minutes. It's most certainly another to put out for 2+ hours.
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It's one thing to put out for 8 minutes. It's most certainly another to put out for 2+ hours.
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