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Old 08-23-2004, 08:59 AM
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I thought this was a good article - I think Bob Dole has hit the nail on the head. I think people cannot reconcile why Kerry protested against Nam when he returned but is touting his work there as the fundamental underpining of his platform for the Presidency. I reconcile them in my head by noting that Kerry volunteered to go to Nam and served with honor. W used family connections to stay here and it is apparent he did not work that hard, if at all. Cheney got five deferments because according to him he had other or better things to do (I forget the exact quote). So, Kerry winds there. Regarding Kerry's post-service actions, I think Kerry was pissed off that he and others were sent to Nam based on Johnson's lie in the Gulf of Tonkin. I think he realized the US had gotten itself into a quagmire and was refusing to admit defeat and come home. I think he saw the horror there (friends killed or hurt - shooting innocent Vietnamese because who knows if they were secretly armed, etc.). I think Kerry decided to do something about that. I think that is a valid choice that IMO has honor, like his service record. As for his test. before Congress, alot of the cut off heads, etc., stuff was based on things that soldiers told him they saw. He was not saying he saw what they said THEY saw. He also did not say every soldier there was doing this - yet that is the lasting implication errouneous as it may be. So, I think Kerry wins here as well.

The problem is most Americans see Kerry as a traitor because he dared to raise his voice against the govt. They cannot see it was a noble and honorable thing to do and that it helped in some way to stop more of our soldiers from dying in a war that we lied to get into and that we were refusing to withdraw from just so we could save face. How that is not an honorable thing, I will never know
Bob Dole has no point and the Viagra has obviously taken a toll on his mental stability. What he's saying is that because there is a good number of vets who are speaking out against Kerry, some of what they're saying must be true. What horse****. That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard yet. I can spek out with 100 other people at my side that George Bush used to shoot heroin, but that doesn't make any of it true.

I think it's really sad if Americans see Kerry as traitor for what he said about Vietnam when he had the support of the majorit yof the country when he said those things. There is no question that what he said happened, it's well-documented. We committed atrocities, there is no denying it. We did not jsut shoot them, we maimed them, tortured them, cut off their limbs, raped the women, you name it and we did it. Yet these vile men are spinning what he said and it's despicable to the point where I think they're embarassments to this country.

Kerry IS a war hero, like him or not.
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