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Old 06-27-2004, 05:16 PM
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Only if you find me some alternative artists who have mentioned any of Lindsey's solo albums.
*sigh*
Well, it's come to this.
Personally I believe that the whole AOR tag to Fleetwood Mac has done some significant harm to them. While their music may have reached huge audiences because of that, it also put them in a box, a situation I've described on the previous page.
How different was their music from the stuff that was being made in the earlier '70s?
Just because the main target audience of Rumours (that was unintentional, as I believe it) was a bunch of thirtysomethings who had been through their divorces, identified with the songs and had given up on following all the latest trends of music, just because of that they're AOR? Soft-rock. How the hell do you express hurt and anger through softness?
The whole "anti-thesis of punk" thing eventually has been something of a disadvantage for the band.
Should their albums have been released in the earlier years of the '70s, then they might have the same kind of "artistic credibility" as Mr. Neil Young, Led Zeppelin, hell, even Pink Floyd have.
Alas, it didn't happen. Nothing could have changed the things at that point, not even Tusk.
You think Lindsey's mainstream because he's slick and shiny? Fine. I've never thought that being slick and shiny is something that only mainstream acts do, otherwise you wouldn't hear The Cocteau Twins or Dead Can Dance doing it. Prefab Sprout and The Blue Nile, too. How about The Smiths? Late period New Order?
But of course, if you think that only by being dirty and rugged one is alternative or is not following the beaten path then I guess that speaks of your preference of the American alternative over the British equivalent.
You like Sonic Youth, you like the Pixies. But where's the revolution in noise these days? As of now there's nothing new in it, you hear it every day when you open the window. Did Sonic Youth sell out to the early '90s mainstream, the grunge, with Dirty? I think they did. Our beloved Pixies are now out on a nostalgic tour and their albums always charted highly in the UK. So aren't they mainstream too? It isn't just a case of who sounds the most distorted, IMO.

Like I've said, Lindsey suffers commercially because he doesn't want to bow down to either side. At the same time he suffers from the label that's been stamped onto him. If the AOR listeners are supposed to be people with the typical middle class lives then I'm sure the listeners who want the "street credibility" will twirl their noses to the association. At the same time they're blocking their musical horizons.

You think Neil Young is more credible than Lindsey? I don't think so. Even when he supposedly turned his back to the mainstream with Harvest he still had a significant audience that he could rely on. Whatever followed in the '70s sold well enough. And his '80s experimental albums aren't to me anything else than Dylanish quirks. Intentional attempts to drive the audience away without any genuine interest in the music he's trying to make. Only those who want to appear unusual will name those among his best work, IMO.

Personally I'm glad that the change for Lindsey is coming surely but slowly.

When I see Marcello Carlin speaking of The Smiths or The Associates in his SYW review I can only nod my head in agreement. The same thing with his review of the Tusk reissue; Pere Ubu and Gang Of Four are mentioned. Add Talking Heads and The Clash. And I'd also add Joy Division and Wire, but also the Beach Boys, the Kingston Trio and Led Zeppelin. And many more. And I don't think that's being too unrealistic or too much under the influence of my often-mentioned fan-bias.

Stevie was picked up by the grunge acts not only because even on the early days she was expressing as much Patti Smith as Janis Joplin. And she is intimate and sincere and up with Neil Young in that alley, and she lived the decadent lifestyle to boot.
It's just weird that she hasn't recognized these qualities in her music so that we could get a true alternative (pun intended) solo album from her.

But yeah, we'll meet again under this topic, I'm sure.
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