***SPOILER***Nashville set list

[Mike B]

You've got to be kidding me.

So now we're down to only IKINW, Sara, and Red Rover as the only changes from a setlist that has been played over 100 times? This is ridiculous.

I might just be done with this tour.

[ShangriLaTroubl]

For all we know possibly they are just trying to change it up every night...I know that is hard to believe, but it is possible...there has been no SET in stone set list since this leg began...Dont let me down again was dropped, then the next night goodbye baby reappeared, now destiny rules has been dropped and say you will back in....maybe next week destiny rules will be back and goodbye baby dropped...MAYBE (although i have my reservations as well)---they are trying to do it a little diff. every night..

Except for DLMDA , we know Cory said it was dropped for good because it couldnt find it's place or something

Chris

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by ShangriLaTroubl

MAYBE (although i have my reservations as well)---they are trying to do it a little diff. every night..

I'd really like to believe that. But it seems to me that they are still just so uncomfortable with taking chances that they're reverting back to the safe, predictible setlist. I guess we will know better after tonight.

Originally Posted by Mike B

You've got to be kidding me.

So now we're down to only IKINW, Sara, and Red Rover as the only changes from a setlist that has been played over 100 times? This is ridiculous.

I might just be done with this tour.

i know...me too. i woke up this morning, went online and hadn't heard the new added songs from Madison. After i heard "DR", i thought, "i like this song...and i'm glad they're doing it in place of "SYW" cause it's more emotional and stevie-ish to me for some reason.

i was just scrambling around the past few days trying to get tix for 2 shows in the area. I found 2 great seats (6th row) for scranton on ebay and when i went to bid on them, ebay prompted me to enter credit card information and i usually wait till literally the last minute or two before bidding because you have a better chance of getting the item without someone out bidding you. anyway, i didn't get the tix and maybe this is a sign.

i think i may just go to one show providing they don't drop anything else.

i also just as soon see them go back into the studio. i really need to save my $$$ anyway.

if they feel that the song was dragging, why don't they put in "RTTG"?

[rezamatic]

Hey everybody! This is my very first post here (woo-hoo!) even though I've been coming to the site over a year now.

Anyways, I've been to see the Mac twice last year (FINALLY my first two times seeing them live) and I've found them to really be playing to the general, casual fans. I've noticed that Rhiannon, Gypsy and a few other classic tracks just seem fizzled out, in my opinion - it's as if they're forced to play them to please those nosebleed-seat-grabbing 'fans'. I totally understand this for the first and even second leg, but the point is that we're on the THIRD LEG now! Those casual fans have had their chances to go catch the band play their greatest hits at least twice now, so I feel like they've filled their quota. It's time to finally throw out new (and obscure old) songs that they've always wanted to experiment with live. If the casual fanbase isn't totally into it, then big deal. Swap with another group of songs the next night. By now I just feel that they should be tailoring more to the diehard fans that will appreciate the immense variety of work they've created over the years (and past year!). We've already forked over tons of cash for repeat concerts, and we're gonna keep going over and over again (who are we kidding?). Bring on the new set list because by now we deserve it!

[77Rumours77]

well i am fine right now, I am praying that INIW and Sara are not dropped! I wouldn't even go if I had the chance!

[diamondsnake]

Can someone answer a question? Is Second Hand News still in the setlist? Someplaces say it is in the set list and some do not. I really hope it is because it is my favorite song from Rumours.

Also!!!! Destiny Rules dropped!!! Ahhhhh!!!! This sucks!!! The tour has been going on for what four or five concerts now and the setlist has been different at each one, so I am not holding my breath to hear any song when I see them next week. I don't want to be dissapointed. This royally sucks though. Lets hope it is just a rumour or they quickly change their minds and bring it back in the setlist tonight. I am mad!!!

[David]

Originally Posted by rezamatic

It's time to finally throw out new (and obscure old) songs that they've always wanted to experiment with live.

Or maybe they don't really want to experiment with new live tunes, despite what they harp on in interviews.

If the casual fanbase isn't totally into it, then big deal.

Harry Cohn, the old studio boss at Columbia, once said that if his ass gets sore in the preview, the movie's a stinker & the audience won't like it. One of the screenwriters quipped, "That's great. The whole world is wired to Harry Cohn's ass."

Fleetwood Mac ought to stop fretting over whether a percentage of the asses out there is getting sore. The band members all think with the most prosaically commercial minds these days. It's no wonder that "Say You Will" ain't "Tusk" -- there's no way in hell that a "Tusk" would have been created in that kind of reactionary environment.

[diamondsnake]

Is Second Hand News in the Setlist?

[sparky]

As much as I like DR on the record, I thought it sounded draggy on the boot too. BUT, that doesn't mean I didn't want to hear it live. It's better than that boring assed, draggariffic SYW. But then, Rhiannon is a boring drag of a song too, and they'll play that till they are hauled off stage. I already decided I am not spending a cent on this leg anyway. If I get comps, I am there. No money from me !

[GypsySorcerer]

Originally Posted by diamondsnake

Is Second Hand News in the Setlist?

They played SHN last night in Nashville.

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by rezamatic

Hey everybody! This is my very first post here (woo-hoo!)

It may be your first, but I hope it isn't your last! I agree with everything you said.

Originally Posted by david

Fleetwood Mac ought to stop fretting over whether a percentage of the asses out there is getting sore.

Exactly. Let the fans worry about their own asses!

[rezamatic]

Originally Posted by Mike B

It may be your first, but I hope it isn't your last! I agree with everything you said.

Thanks! It took me a while to figure out which post I really wanted to respond to and have something decent to say!

One thing I noticed with my two concert-goings is that the audience is SO much different in nosebleeds versus floor. I was trying to chat up with some 'fans' when I couldn't afford decent seats. I said I couldn't wait to hear "Tusk" and she sort of blanked and said 'OH, right--wow that's an obscure one! You're pretty good!" That and I had some drunk redneck behind me screaming out "YEEEAH Not Ever Going There Again, Lucy!" during NGBA. Lucy.... Lucky Birmingham, I assume?

Compare that to the awesome time I had down on the floor a few months later, talking with fans about specific shows/sets at tours that I've never had the chance to go to! Just proved to me that the $70 fans will be happy enough with whatever, but the $100+ fans will get SUCH a kick out of new stuff.

So that brings me to a question - do you think that if F-Mac actually did change up their set list to appeal to their more dedicated fans, that overall ticket sales would drop? I mean, are they afraid of this and that's why they don't bother?

[jadegypsy]

The Good: I get to keep $100, no DR no going, that simple. I don't care all that much about the other new songs, I like Sara but it's not in my top five Stevie songs.

The Bad: I get to keep $100 b/c the set list almost identical to what I saw before, and yes I would've shelled out $100 to see DR live, only three other songs could've made me do that: Angel, MLD, and Sweet Girl. Oh well.

As for why the play the same old list probably b/c they are not footing the tour bill and the backers (VH1?) want to see $$$ not to please the diehard fan. If it isn't on Rumors or called Rhiannon or Gypsy the casual fan doesn't know it or want to hear it. But I can't really point fingers, after all I'm going to see Madonna and I want to hear her older stuff, obscure great, new NO!

[Mike B]

Originally Posted by rezamatic

So that brings me to a question - do you think that if F-Mac actually did change up their set list to appeal to their more dedicated fans, that overall ticket sales would drop? I mean, are they afraid of this and that's why they don't bother?

I personally don't think it is as much a money issue as it is a performance anxiety issue.

Most casual fans come in expecting to hear the monster hits. But do casual fans do any research before going to see a band like FM? I think they see the brand name "Fleetwood Mac" and that's enough. Once they get inside the door, they are pretty much at the mercy of the band in regards to the setlist. I guess what I'm saying is that as long as the tour isn't advertised as an "Obscurities Tour", they'll probably put the same number of butts in the seats. They may have some very unhappy audience members, but hey, by then, the ticket is sold.

But that is part of the problem. This band definitely feeds off the energy of the audience and this fan response often dictates which songs to drop (RTTG and DLMDA anyone?). So obscure songs = less response = less energy = a terrified band. I would have thought that they would have more confidence in themselves and their music by now, but apparently they don't.

I think it is possible to achieve a balance between playing the mega hits and enough new/obscure songs to keep everyone happy, but FM seems to fall just short of it for me. They really don't have to play 8 + songs from Rumours on every tour.