Stevie and John interview (1987)

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Was it the same as "stone wash" jeans? That's how they called here, yes in english. And they said they were called that because it was inspired by how native americans washed clothes in the river. But some of them weren't whited; it was the same style, but the lighter parts had a greenish tint. I don't know if it was a faulty process from cheap brands or if they did it on purpose, but they looked really ugly to me.

Thats a good question. I had to use google to confirm my hunch. Stone washed jeans go way back. They were lighter and had a sort of worn in look to them. They were more comfortable to wear. White washed jeans was a fad that actually used acid or bleach to give a streaky and light white color on the denim. I suppose they are a tad similar but I remember buying stone washed jeans in the late 70s. White washed jeans and denim was a quick fad in the late 80s.

From google:

Stone wash jeans feature a faded, worn-in look achieved by tumbling denim with abrasive pumice stones in industrial washers. This process removes surface dye to create unique, vintage patterns while making the fabric exceptionally soft

White/acid-washed jeans—White washed jeans are denim garments treated with bleaching agents to dramatically fade the original dark indigo or black dye, resulting in an exceptionally light, sun-bleached look. This process leaves the pants with an off-white, ice-blue, or pale gray hue

I would say stone washed jeans had a worn look to them and they were lighter denim and comfortable
White washed jeans take it to the next level with parts of denim being white and almost look like a tye-dye jeans in bleach or acid. It was not for comfort like stone washed it was strictly for a bolder look. White washed jeans were also known as acid washed jeans depending on where you lived. I think acid washed jeans is more proper. I grew up in Appalachia and we had different names for lots of things so I apologize for confusion.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Thats a good question. I had to use google to confirm my hunch. Stone washed jeans go way back. They were lighter and had a sort of worn in look to them. They were more comfortable to wear. White washed jeans was a fad that actually used acid or bleach to give a streaky and light white color on the denim. I suppose they are a tad similar but I remember buying stone washed jeans in the late 70s. White washed jeans and denim was a quick fad in the late 80s.
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Can't remember the quality, I don't know if they were lighter, I never bought one, about jeans I've always been a classic guy. Yes, perhaps some had a worn appearance that simulated a "rustic" look. But I'm pretty sure "stone wash" in Peru was a brief and temporary fad too, can't remember the exact year but it was mid 80s cause I was in college and some friends used them.

[bwboy]

Thanks for sharing this, Macfan4life. While I agree the puffy sleeves and high collar do Stevie absolutely no favors, that color blue is stunning. If only she would wear something in another color now besides black.

I don’t think her swaying is related to Klonopin, anymore than I think John is slumped in the couch because he’s drunk. Both seem relaxed (lol) and maybe it is related to pills and alcohol, but I don’t watch this video and see two messed up rockstars. I’m sure I’m going to be accused of “FM and especially Stevie can do no wrong” but yeah, except for the horrible shape/cut of Stevie’s dress, I think they both look great here.

[Macfan4life]

Part 2 of the interview
Its so nice to see John interviewed. He is the least interviewed of the band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syzirXdrOqw

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Part 2 of the interview
Its so nice to see John interviewed. He is the least interviewed of the band

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=syzirXdrOqw

With everything we know about the 80s' Stevie it's easy to say Hey she is drugged up, sedated, whatever, after she said What was I going to say? I may have lost this whole thing. But actually that has happened to me dozen of times, and to friends, while being sober; sometimes one goes on for so long explaining something that one forgets what one was originally going to answer.

But I see she is sincere when mentions Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc. and says I wanted to arrive in the helicopter..., etc. I mean, she dreamed of being a star, no doubt. I don't think Christine ever answered the same, correct me if I'm wrong. They were different persons. John's answer was also completely different, and very simple.

Whether being very different people made things easier or harder in the band, I guess it depended on the situation.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by Villavic

With everything we know about the 80s' Stevie it's easy to say Hey she is drugged up, sedated, whatever, after she said What was I going to say? I may have lost this whole thing. But actually that has happened to me dozen of times, and to friends, while being sober; sometimes one goes on for so long explaining something that one forgets what one was originally going to answer.

But I see she is sincere when mentions Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc. and says I wanted to arrive in the helicopter..., etc. I mean, she dreamed of being a star, no doubt. I don't think Christine ever answered the same, correct me if I'm wrong. They were different persons. John's answer was also completely different, and very simple.

Whether being very different people made things easier or harder in the band, I guess it depended on the situation.

Stevie always wanted to be a star. Keith Olsen said she was going to be a "nobody or a superstar there was no in between."
In 2000 she revealed parts of her journal on the NicksFix. The ending to almost every entry was "walk like a queen."
But IMHO the biggest clue to her stardom was the letter she wrote her parents while recording Buckingham Nicks in the studio. It was not a normal child to parent letter. She wrote it as if she was already a superstar.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Villavic

With everything we know about the 80s' Stevie it's easy to say Hey she is drugged up, sedated, whatever, after she said What was I going to say? I may have lost this whole thing. But actually that has happened to me dozen of times, and to friends, while being sober; sometimes one goes on for so long explaining something that one forgets what one was originally going to answer.

But I see she is sincere when mentions Led Zeppelin, The Who, etc. and says I wanted to arrive in the helicopter..., etc. I mean, she dreamed of being a star, no doubt. I don't think Christine ever answered the same, correct me if I'm wrong. They were different persons. John's answer was also completely different, and very simple.

Whether being very different people made things easier or harder in the band, I guess it depended on the situation.

I don't think either John or Chris ever wanted to be a 'rock star...' they were more introverted and probably didn't dream of fame and helicopters lol. I'd guess being very different helped the group over time in certain ways...like it's good that stevie and chris were so opposite, they never really had to compete as women. and maybe it was good that J&C were so similar because it kept them kind of on the same page in all the years after the divorce, whereas L&S seemed quite different as people and ended up with a bit more friction. and Mick to me seems kind of like a chameleon who can adapt himself to various personalities to work towards a positive outcome.

chris once said about the band that they were "five quite strong minded, quite stubborn individuals, but somehow it seems to gel and we can always arrive at a musical agreement." and Lindsey has said that on paper you wouldn't think these people should all be in a band together lol. but the chemistry just worked. (with some ups and downs..)

they've always been such an interesting group of people.

--Lis

[DownOnRodeo]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

it's good that stevie and chris were so opposite, they never really had to compete as women. and maybe it was good that J&C were so similar because it kept them kind of on the same page in all the years after the divorce, whereas L&S seemed quite different as people and ended up with a bit more friction. and Mick to me seems kind of like a chameleon who can adapt himself to various personalities to work towards a positive outcome.

That's an excellent summary of the five and their dynamics.