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[HomerMcvie]

People follow her blindly.

Abortion is such a hot button issue for so many people, that I think it's good that people know that she's not perfect, because,

People follow her blindly.

[AnthonyMI]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

People follow her blindly.

Abortion is such a hot button issue for so many people, that I think it's good that people know that she's not perfect, because,

People follow her blindly.

yes.

And.

And I think more youths are waking up to not just following blindly but seeing how people ended up years down the road. Now that we are a generation or two removed from the Sexual Revolution and the 1970’s things are becoming evident there are long term consequences . maybe instead of seeing Stevie and thinking “golly, if I choose to have sex drugs and rock and roll lifestyle and live life hard and fast and give up family I can end up an old crusty hag alone surrounded by my bags of money!! OR, I can chose family and love and balanced life and give up a few things”.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by AnthonyMI

yes.

And.

And I think more youths are waking up to not just following blindly but seeing how people ended up years down the road. Now that we are a generation or two removed from the Sexual Revolution and the 1970’s things are becoming evident there are long term consequences . maybe instead of seeing Stevie and thinking “golly, if I choose to have sex drugs and rock and roll lifestyle and live life hard and fast and give up family I can end up an old crusty hag alone surrounded by my bags of money!! OR, I can chose family and love and balanced life and give up a few things”.

Perfect response. Thank you.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by tothegypsy

Can we move the misogynistic, right-wing circle jerk somewhere else? Accusing her of killing children? This is getting ridiculous.

ACCUSING? Stating facts isn't accusing.

And I'm neither right wing nor anti pro choice.

This is getting ridiculous.

[AnthonyMI]

Originally Posted by tothegypsy

There are people on this planet who have actually killed actual children. Stevie Nicks did not kill children. Stevie Nicks had abortions.

Except she called them children.

“Don’t take me to the tower and take my CHILD away” has for the last 45 years been understood as code for her talking about her aborted children.


“Sara” was, in part, about her aborted child she imagined to have named Sara. Or at least that is what people used to think 20-25 years ago. You don’t name aborted… what do we call them, Fetuses? fetus is latin for “offspring”. Isn’t an offspring of a human called a Child? Just cuz you don’t like words doesn’t make them not true.

And most of “Goodbye Baby” she’s talking about a BABY.

“I who went to sleep as TWO” implies two separate and distinguishable lives. “Woke up as one” means one is dead. “now only you remain” she’s talking about herself in third(?) person. Pretty clear she’s talking about her children.

[AnthonyMI]

Originally Posted by tothegypsy

She can write whatever she likes in her poetry and songs...she can even regret her decision to not have children if that's how she feels, though that doesn't seem to reflect how she feels today. But no, having an abortion is not the same thing as killing a child, and people like you making dangerous false equivalencies are responsible for creating an environment where people are shot and killed for providing abortion services.

Hilarious. If someone’s choses to murder another human. “He made me do it by using Stevie’s words against her!” Won’t hold up in court.

People are allowed to have opinions and chose what they want to do. Legally. If Stevie wants to advertise how great being able to have free access to abortion was good for her career and lifestyle that is fine. It is my feeling that seeing what that did to her is not at all appealing. Choices has consequences. Maybe they were not evident for 30 or 40 years or more. But seeing her now I know more young ladies who do not see the long term appeal. Now they can make a more informed “choice” when it comes to their “right”

[FuzzyPlum]

So….2 days to go. Who wins the US election?
I have a hunch. And it makes me very worried.
All our American members made up their minds?

[AnthonyMI]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

I am not a fan of a lot of her behaviors ( firing Lindsey etc.) but I am with you on this. It seemed like JD Vance had invaded the Ledge...gag

I think by writing a song about it and doing interviews about it open it up for discussion and opinions either way.