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Old 07-26-2024, 08:49 AM
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yeah but she wouldn't have been in college FOREVER...

so ok, she finishes college on mom and dad's dime, and THEN what??

She can bs about being a teacher all she wants, but if you know any ACTUAL teachers in the US, there is no way in hell she'd have survived that. No way.

She would have found ways/places to continue singing. I think of the interview during the Dance era, that one where she's sitting on the road case and Lindsey nuzzles her.... and they were talking about playing small places and how they'd (S&L) been offered gigs in steakhouses and the like and Lindsey was like nope, and she freely admitted she'd have taken those gigs. She'd be doing what Shania did early in her career-- clubs, casinos, cruise ships...if that's all she could get.

Might she have met yet another talented person/man who fell in love with her and because of that helped her make her stories and demos etc into something more viable? Quite possibly. Or she'd be living in a dump with 6 cats. Who knows.
I have my own theory that she was clinging to Tom Petty even as far back as the 80s because she really wanted to join the band and leave Fleetwood Mac. She barely participated in the making of Mirage, Tango, etc etc.
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Old 07-26-2024, 09:09 AM
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I have my own theory that she was clinging to Tom Petty even as far back as the 80s because she really wanted to join the band and leave Fleetwood Mac. She barely participated in the making of Mirage, Tango, etc etc.
Agreed. She went back with them to wield her powers after Tusk. I think subconsciously she wanted to rub it in Mick and Lindsey's faces. Or even consciously. McVie(s) not so much but them to an extent as well.

In one sense, I don't blame her. She was pushed aside a lot in the beginning. Lindsey set the tone for that. We are serious musicians and you're a space cadet. (sort of attitude) And in a way, I see the band's side of it too. Survival and artistry are very personal with big egos.

We see it come to that in Destiny's docu. I'm not your little flower girl anymore. Don't tell me what my lyrics need to be. F*** off!!!

Anyway, that's my take.
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Old 07-26-2024, 11:39 AM
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I think she would have been a star..,not as big as she has been, but still up there.
And not such a long career …
she is ego driven, always has been.
So she would have made it.
Maybe in a slightly different genre, not the rock chick she thinks she is.

Getting back to now.
Fleetwood Mac don’t exist anymore, sorry Mick.
But she remains as a huge star….
I don’t live in the USA so I don’t get it really, how can she tour and tour with the same old songs ??

But she does. And to large crowds too.
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I don’t live in the USA so I don’t get it really, how can she tour and tour with the same old songs ??
She’s an oldies act. People want to hear the hits. They’re not interested in new music. So, she gives them what they want.
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Old 07-26-2024, 12:23 PM
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She’s an oldies act. People want to hear the hits. They’re not interested in new music. So, she gives them what they want.
In that case she’s smart ..maximum earnings for little artistic input.
But not only is she playing for oldies….she is one.
So who can blame her.
But it must get boring..
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LOL didn't she always say she would have been a teacher? She'd totally be that annoying teacher that takes over drama club and insists on directing every play and musical the school does. Impressing her knowledge from "her Hollywood days" to anyone willing to listen....
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In that case she’s smart ..maximum earnings for little artistic input.
But not only is she playing for oldies….she is one.
So who can blame her.
But it must get boring..
Not really. The shows are just a small part of their day.
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Not really. The shows are just a small part of their day.
Not true, it's like being in the army. Or a like a head coach for the Bengals.
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I think she would have been a star..,not as big as she has been, but still up there.
And not such a long career …
she is ego driven, always has been.
So she would have made it.
Maybe in a slightly different genre, not the rock chick she thinks she is.

Getting back to now.
Fleetwood Mac don’t exist anymore, sorry Mick.
But she remains as a huge star….
I don’t live in the USA so I don’t get it really, how can she tour and tour with the same old songs ??

But she does. And to large crowds too.
if you look at the timeline before they joined Fleetwood Mac she was very close to packing it in and resuming her education .She was going into her late twenties and had to have a skilled musical collaborator to put her songs across as her own musical skill would remain very basic to put it kindly. She was in no way someone like Joni Mitchell or later Kate Bush who could have and did record masterpieces with very little help .So no guarantee that she would have made it going forward. She was very lucky. What she did do right was once she started to become famous she crafted an image and personae that fit well with her music .This is one reason that she is still a big concert draw along with having great PR people. I would compare her now to someone like Elizabeth Taylor who had not appeared in a hit film since the 1960s but remained a huge star for decades after. She really does not have to do anything new or creative now to remain famous and therefore almost certainly will not.
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if you look at the timeline before they joined Fleetwood Mac she was very close to packing it in and resuming her education .She was going into her late twenties and had to have a skilled musical collaborator to put her songs across as her own musical skill would remain very basic to put it kindly. She was in no way someone like Joni Mitchell or later Kate Bush who could have and did record masterpieces with very little help .So no guarantee that she would have made it going forward. She was very lucky. What she did do right was once she started to become famous she crafted an image and personae that fit well with her music .This is one reason that she is still a big concert draw along with having great PR people. I would compare her now to someone like Elizabeth Taylor who had not appeared in a hit film since the 1960s but remained a huge star for decades after. She really does not have to do anything new or creative now to remain famous and therefore almost certainly will not.
She told mojo magazine that she's recording an album this year.

As a fan of her, it's sad that she hasn't done a true tour highlighting a new album since In Your Dreams. The Songs From The Vault Tour was not about the album 24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault - three 24KG songs versus 6-7 on IYD Tour.
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She told mojo magazine that she's recording an album this year.

As a fan of her, it's sad that she hasn't done a true tour highlighting a new album since In Your Dreams. The Songs From The Vault Tour was not about the album 24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault - three 24KG songs versus 6-7 on IYD Tour.
Yes I am aware of the Mojo article and how she thinks her new song The Vampire's Wife is one of the best things she has ever written so probably right up there with Show Them The Way being the equal of Edge of SeventeenAs far as a new album goes I will believe it when I see it.
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Yes I am aware of the Mojo article and how she thinks her new song The Vampire's Wife is one of the best things she has ever written so probably right up there with Show Them The Way being the equal of Edge of SeventeenAs far as a new album goes I will believe it when I see it.
Four Years Later, Show Them The Way has never been performed in public or at a concert.
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Stevie would not be famous if she hadn’t joined Fleetwood Mac. It’s just that simple. Remember the Buckingham Nicks album? Of course you do… but only because you bought it AFTER she and Lindsey joined FM.
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Stevie would not be famous if she hadn’t joined Fleetwood Mac. It’s just that simple. Remember the Buckingham Nicks album? Of course you do… but only because you bought it AFTER she and Lindsey joined FM.
If only SHE understood this.
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