When were these taken?

Mr Scarrott · #1 03-26-2024, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD

McVies: Humble middle class backgrounds. Had been in serious long-term relationships before becoming a couple. Music was a trade and both were initially background players. Their respective careers and their personal relationship existed independently of one another before becoming intertwined when Christine joined. John was an adult who took ownership of the collapse of the marriage. Not the first time his alcoholism got the better of him.

Buckingham Nicks: Rich kids who wanted to be stars. Personal relationship and music careers were enmeshed from the moment Keith scouted them. The only thing that stood out with Fritz was the harmonies. Lindsey was the bass player. Every subsequent career development they made was together, until “Belladonna.” They needed each other, though neither wants to admit it, and have spent the last 45 years trying to prove that they were the reason for their success. In other words, jealousy and resentment.

I don't think John was from a middle-class background. Looking at public-domain records on a genealogy website I use, his father, Reginald, was a 17 year-old grocer's assistant in 1939 in Ealing, living with his widowed mother. His grandfather, also John McVie, seems to have been working in a factory in 1921. I'm not sure what Reginald ended up doing, but it sounds more of a working class background to me, unlike Mick's.

Villavic · #2 03-26-2024, 11:40 AM

Egos may be present in anybody. High class, mid class, city people, town people, country people, anywhere. I've seen it. And another factor was what Christine said in 1997 about the time they broke up (C&J): we actually didn’t talk at all. Stevie and Lindsey didn’t get along very well either, but they used to fight… …specially when they were writing songs together… John and I did not write songs together, and we did not talk. Period.

Mick included a good example of what would be the seeds of the endless resentment and fighting between those two:

Suppose Lindsey wasn't playing well on a particular song or something," she (SN) said. "As his girlfriend, I should be a comfort to him, right? You know: 'Who cares about it? You're great anyway!' I mean, that's what old ladies do for their men, right? But I couldn't, because I was also frustrated and saying, 'Look, if you could just get your guitar part tight, we could put the vocal on.' I'd be pissed off at him too. There was no way we could get any comfort from each other about what went on in the band. There was no love, because everybody was too nervous. And while we were traveling all the time, none of us had other friends to talk to...."

And yes the I wanna be a star was another spicy condiment, too.

Stevie has also said that the relationship between her and Lindsey was already a bit rocky when they joined the band. As Stevie started to express herself more, as she became a star, things didn't get any better.

HomerMcvie · #3 03-26-2024, 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic

Egos may be present in anybody. High class, mid class, city people, town people, country people, anywhere. I've seen it. And another factor was what Christine said in 1997 about the time they broke up (C&J): we actually didn’t talk at all. Stevie and Lindsey didn’t get along very well either, but they used to fight… …specially when they were writing songs together… John and I did not write songs together, and we did not talk. Period.

Mick included a good example of what would be the seeds of the endless resentment and fighting between those two:

Suppose Lindsey wasn't playing well on a particular song or something," she (SN) said. "As his girlfriend, I should be a comfort to him, right? You know: 'Who cares about it? You're great anyway!' I mean, that's what old ladies do for their men, right? But I couldn't, because I was also frustrated and saying, 'Look, if you could just get your guitar part tight, we could put the vocal on.' I'd be pissed off at him too. There was no way we could get any comfort from each other about what went on in the band. There was no love, because everybody was too nervous. And while we were traveling all the time, none of us had other friends to talk to...."

And yes the I wanna be a star was another spicy condiment, too.

Stevie has also said that the relationship between her and Lindsey was already a bit rocky when they joined the band. As Stevie started to express herself more, as she became a star, things didn't get any better.

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