When were these taken?

[jbrownsjr]

I love Christine holding John's hand!! She loves him as much as that ciggy!

[sleepless child]

I believe it might have been The Rock Awards. I vaguely remember from my high school days

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by sleepless child

I believe it might have been The Rock Awards. I vaguely remember from my high school days

Yes. Now I found it.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I love Christine holding John's hand!! She loves him as much as that ciggy!

More. she couldn't ever really quit either one.

and yes that does look like a penguin on john's lapel...isn't there a video of some concert from that time when chris and john were both wearing little penguins? i think there is...

--Lis

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

More. she couldn't ever really quit either one.

and yes that does look like a penguin on john's lapel...isn't there a video of some concert from that time when chris and john were both wearing little penguins? i think there is...

--Lis

I love this look on his face. Those brits really worked hard to get to that moment.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

I love Christine holding John's hand!! She loves him as much as that ciggy!

Definitely there was always love there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blo9xp059U

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Definitely there was always love there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0blo9xp059U

Isn't it ironic that Chris and John found a way to still love each other, and Lindsey and Old Goatsy have hated each other's guts for 50 years?

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Isn't it ironic that Chris and John found a way to still love each other, and Lindsey and Old Goatsy have hated each other's guts for 50 years?

No. It's just a matter of egos, mindsets, etc. Lindsey is not John. Stevie is not Christine. I don't find it ironic, but sad.

[Mr Scarrott]

It's lovely that in that pic, from Lindsey through to John there's a physical contact from one member to the other.. it's not forced but it's erm, a chain...

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Mr Scarrott

It's lovely that in that pic, from Lindsey through to John there's a physical contact from one member to the other.. it's not forced but it's erm, a chain...

The Chain came to mind for me as well.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Isn't it ironic that Chris and John found a way to still love each other, and Lindsey and Old Goatsy have hated each other's guts for 50 years?

J and C definitely found ways to love each other. but to me the main difference in the relationships of those 2 couples lies in the fact that it seemed Stevie and LB always seemed to find something in the other that just worked their nerves, something that irritated them. Imo the true, deep, close friendship and compatibility that J/C had was nonexistent w S/L. J/C were far more able to forgive each other for past hurts and just move on to the better place of 'the present'... 'we adore each other NOW, we appreciate the relationship we have NOW.' S/L seemed to keep rehashing the issues of the past to the point that their NOW was never a great place to be...

-Lis

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

J and C definitely found ways to love each other. but to me the main difference in the relationships of those 2 couples lies in the fact that it seemed Stevie and LB always seemed to find something in the other that just worked their nerves, something that irritated them. Imo the true, deep, close friendship and compatibility that J/C had was nonexistent w S/L. J/C were far more able to forgive each other for past hurts and just move on to the better place of 'the present'... 'we adore each other NOW, we appreciate the relationship we have NOW.' S/L seemed to keep rehashing the issues of the past to the point that their NOW was never a great place to be...

-Lis

It's childish on both their parts, I think. Because I truly think they love pushing each other's buttons, seeing the other one get mad.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

It's childish on both their parts, I think. Because I truly think they love pushing each other's buttons, seeing the other one get mad.

I think perhaps ego played into the equation differently between Stevie and Lindsey in multiple ways. Sure, J+C had healthy egos, but in a different kind of way. J+C were both talented musicians and were secure in their ability. I think both of them played music because they loved it first, it was less about the spotlight and fame. John didn't write songs, so they didn't have to compete or feel like they had to compete with each other in that arena.

There always was and always will be a valley of separation between Lindsey and Stevie in the respect that Stevie was all about making the splash and achieving fame, while Lindsey always made decisions from the artists point of view first. Lindsey was a guitar maniac on stage, while it was Stevie's vocals and appearance on stage that drew attention. They were both amazing songwriters and perhaps that's the one area that provides the least amount of resentment (beyond some of the sharp lyrics they've directed at each other over the decades)

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I think perhaps ego played into the equation differently between Stevie and Lindsey in multiple ways. Sure, J+C had healthy egos, but in a different kind of way. J+C were both talented musicians and were secure in their ability. I think both of them played music because they loved it first, it was less about the spotlight and fame. John didn't write songs, so they didn't have to compete or feel like they had to compete with each other in that arena.

There always was and always will be a valley of separation between Lindsey and Stevie in the respect that Stevie was all about making the splash and achieving fame, while Lindsey always made decisions from the artists point of view first. Lindsey was a guitar maniac on stage, while it was Stevie's vocals and appearance on stage that drew attention. They were both amazing songwriters and perhaps that's the one area that provides the least amount of resentment (beyond some of the sharp lyrics they've directed at each other over the decades)

I wouldn't call Old Goatsy an amazing songwriter. I mean, she doesn't really write the music, other than plonking out her F and G chords. SOMEBODY ELSE turns it into magic.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Isn't it ironic that Chris and John found a way to still love each other, and Lindsey and Old Goatsy have hated each other's guts for 50 years?

McVies: Humble middle class backgrounds. Had been in serious long-term relationships before becoming a couple. Music was a trade and both were initially background players. Their respective careers and their personal relationship existed independently of one another before becoming intertwined when Christine joined. John was an adult who took ownership of the collapse of the marriage. Not the first time his alcoholism got the better of him.

Buckingham Nicks: Rich kids who wanted to be stars. Personal relationship and music careers were enmeshed from the moment Keith scouted them. The only thing that stood out with Fritz was the harmonies. Lindsey was the bass player. Every subsequent career development they made was together, until “Belladonna.” They needed each other, though neither wants to admit it, and have spent the last 45 years trying to prove that they were the reason for their success. In other words, jealousy and resentment.