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Old 10-02-2023, 10:58 AM
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That Buckingham Nicks Rhiannon always reminds me of how important Fleetwood Mac was to making some of these songs work. Mr. Fleetwood and the McVie’s really bring it all together in comparison to this.
There's just no question, they would not have survived without Fleetwood Mac.
This is good, but it's not amazing like FM.
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Old 10-03-2023, 10:47 AM
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There's just no question, they would not have survived without Fleetwood Mac.
This is good, but it's not amazing like FM.
Lindsey likely would have become a successful session player/arranger/producer. Not sure what Stevie would have done. Or maybe they would have had one more album--another chance. And maybe it would have made a little noise. But they wouldn't have made it through the 70s as an act.

They were a good act. But their sole album is wildly overrated (exception: Frozen Love) and despite claims for originality they did sound familiar, even occasionally derivative.

It was the mix of their attributes with Christine's voice, and that powerhouse rhythm section that made all of them.
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Old 10-03-2023, 12:02 PM
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Lindsey likely would have become a successful session player/arranger/producer. Not sure what Stevie would have done. Or maybe they would have had one more album--another chance. And maybe it would have made a little noise. But they wouldn't have made it through the 70s as an act.

They were a good act. But their sole album is wildly overrated (exception: Frozen Love) and despite claims for originality they did sound familiar, even occasionally derivative.

It was the mix of their attributes with Christine's voice, and that powerhouse rhythm section that made all of them.
I agree. This is what I"m saying. I've always been a huge fan of B/N album. But taking a step back and realizing it's not breakthrough material, opened my eyes a bit.

Especially after listening to MTM and Heroes. Those albums are really really better than I've given them credit for.
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They are really good here. It sort of reminds me of that Reeses Peanut Buttercup commercial that aired around this time. Chocolate is so good. Peanut Butter is so good. But when you put them both together its a dream. Fleetwood Mac was already excellent but Lindsey's powers and her cult persona took everything to another level.
Clearly they were not amateurs listening to this concert.
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They are really good here. It sort of reminds me of that Reeses Peanut Buttercup commercial that aired around this time. Chocolate is so good. Peanut Butter is so good. But when you put them both together its a dream. Fleetwood Mac was already excellent but Lindsey's powers and her cult persona took everything to another level.
Clearly they were not amateurs listening to this concert.
And who doesn't sound good with Fleetwood, McVie McVie as your rhythm?
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What is the name of the Stevie Nicks song that begins at 32:00? It is somewhat reminiscent of what would later become "Silver Springs".

While there are moments of brilliance, this concert is rough. Their live sound is very staccato--at times choppy and mechanical. Of course, having no money at the time, they probably weren't playing with the most elaborate and expensive sound system.

I've always assumed that Fleetwood Mac needed Buckingham & Nicks to break through. I now think it might be the other way around.

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What is the name of the Stevie Nicks song that begins at 32:00? It is somewhat reminiscent of what would later become "Silver Springs".

While there are moments of brilliance, this concert is rough. Their live sound is very staccato--at times choppy and mechanical. Of course, having no money at the time, they probably weren't playing with the most elaborate and expensive sound system.

I've always assumed that Fleetwood Mac needed Buckingham & Nicks to break through. I now think it might be the other way around.
I absolutely think BN needed Fleetwood Mac to break through. For all intents and purposes, Fleetwood Mac had broken through already but B and N gave them that extra edge they needed to really get to that next level. I do believe Fleetwood Mac would’ve continued to have moderate success without BN but BN without FM would’ve been on the steakhouse circuit outside of Alabama.
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Old 10-05-2023, 07:28 AM
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I've always assumed that Fleetwood Mac needed Buckingham & Nicks to break through. I now think it might be the other way around.
It's funny, Tony and I were just chatting about that. I can see why they weren't picked up for another album. And that's saying a lot because I liked their album. But this isn't anything through the roof. They needed FM.
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I've always assumed that Fleetwood Mac needed Buckingham & Nicks to break through. I now think it might be the other way around.
These past few months I’ve been listening a lot to HEROES. It’s remarkable how polished the core trio sounds through the entire album. You could play the entire set of songs just isolating the drums-bass-keyboards and hear a distinctive SOUND. Even a debatably “lesser” album track like “Born Enchanter” impressed: it plays like an Otis Span blues with a definite jazz swing.

“She’s Changing Me” is a bit of non-derivative Eagles-So Cal rock, before Blue Letter.

And “Bad Loser” paves the way for the driving blues-rock extrapolation that was World Turning.

FM knew what they were and what they wanted. They just needed a bit more market appeal, of which BN, once they settled into the band, could easily provide.
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What is the name of the Stevie Nicks song that begins at 32:00? It is somewhat reminiscent of what would later become "Silver Springs".

I've always assumed that Fleetwood Mac needed Buckingham & Nicks to break through. I now think it might be the other way around.
The music of that song is incredibly catchy!

The beauty of the Rumours 5 for me was that they needed each other. I truly believe that their success hinged on each member, especially the three songwriters. Without even one, I truly don’t believe they would have had the success they had.
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