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Old 09-29-2023, 03:03 PM
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I'm not sure if these have been posted in this thread, but here's a few more recollections about the New Zealand incident:

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Consider the enormous variety of memories, several of them contradictory.

Stevie 2005: “We were on the last song of the set ... that is the first and only time we have not done an encore.”
Carol Harris: “The band had only been playing for a little while.”
Mick 1990: “Halfway through the performance, he snapped.”

Mick 1990: “He started to kick Stevie while she was trying to salvage the number [“Rhiannon”].
Rolling Stone 1997: “He came over—might have kicked me, did something to me, and we stopped the show.”
2009: “After their team meeting, Fleetwood Mac did return to the stage.”
Carol Harris: “The whole show fell apart.”

Mick 1990: “It turned out they [the audience] either didn't notice it or thought his behavior was part of the act, or just a joke.”
Carol Harris: “The audience was stunned.”
2009: “Street Talk was the support act that night ... as Fleetwood Mac deteriorated in front of our eyes, I remember a chant starting up—‘Bring back Street Talk.’ ”

2009: “It was March 1980 in Wellington ... that night in Athletic Park” [March 20, 1980].
Mojo 2003: “Playing to 60,000 in Auckland, New Zealand” [March 22, 1980, in Western Springs Stadium].
2009: “Hammond [opening act Street Talk] said the gig that followed at Western Springs was a good concert but Wellington was most definitely ‘meltdown night.’ ”
Mick 1990: “In mid-March we flew off to New Zealand to play in front of sixty thousand fans in Auckland.”

Did this happen in Auckland or Wellington?
Did the audience notice or not?
Did it happen during “Rhiannon” or the end of the show before the encore?
Did Fleetwood Mac return to the stage or not?
Did Lindsey kick or not?
Did Lindsey throw guitar or not? Why does Stevie call it a black Les Paul, when Lindsey was playing a Turner on every song that Stevie was onstage for?
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Old 09-29-2023, 03:23 PM
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Consider the enormous variety of memories, several of them contradictory.

Stevie 2005: “We were on the last song of the set ... that is the first and only time we have not done an encore.”
Carol Harris: “The band had only been playing for a little while.”
Mick 1990: “Halfway through the performance, he snapped.”

Mick 1990: “He started to kick Stevie while she was trying to salvage the number [“Rhiannon”].
Rolling Stone 1997: “He came over—might have kicked me, did something to me, and we stopped the show.”
2009: “After their team meeting, Fleetwood Mac did return to the stage.”
Carol Harris: “The whole show fell apart.”

Mick 1990: “It turned out they [the audience] either didn't notice it or thought his behavior was part of the act, or just a joke.”
Carol Harris: “The audience was stunned.”
2009: “Street Talk was the support act that night ... as Fleetwood Mac deteriorated in front of our eyes, I remember a chant starting up—‘Bring back Street Talk.’ ”

2009: “It was March 1980 in Wellington ... that night in Athletic Park” [March 20, 1980].
Mojo 2003: “Playing to 60,000 in Auckland, New Zealand” [March 22, 1980, in Western Springs Stadium].
2009: “Hammond [opening act Street Talk] said the gig that followed at Western Springs was a good concert but Wellington was most definitely ‘meltdown night.’ ”
Mick 1990: “In mid-March we flew off to New Zealand to play in front of sixty thousand fans in Auckland.”

Did this happen in Auckland or Wellington?
Did the audience notice or not?
Did it happen during “Rhiannon” or the end of the show before the encore?
Did Fleetwood Mac return to the stage or not?
Did Lindsey kick or not?
Did Lindsey throw guitar or not? Why does Stevie call it a black Les Paul, when Lindsey was playing a Turner on every song that Stevie was onstage for?
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Old 09-29-2023, 04:37 PM
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Consider the enormous variety of memories, several of them contradictory.
I reckon Dennis Dunstan could provide the most accurate account, since he wasn't partaking in any... substance abuse.
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Old 09-29-2023, 04:58 PM
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I reckon Dennis Dunstan could provide the most accurate account, since he wasn't partaking in any... substance abuse.
He seems to have too much class to ever tell, though.

Plus, he's still working in the industry, and it would be a dumb move on his part.
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He seems to have too much class to ever tell, though.

Plus, he's still working in the industry, and it would be a dumb move on his part.
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Old 09-29-2023, 06:18 PM
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He seems to have too much class to ever tell, though.

Plus, he's still working in the industry, and it would be a dumb move on his part.
I dunno. He seems to be quite open about the band's drug use of late...

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The thing that strikes me about the New Zealand show mythology is that if it was broadcast on the radio why has it not been shared all these years later? We have good and crappy bootlegs of material all through the years, so it's hard to believe someone doesn't have a copy. It might be hard to tell what happened by just audio, but it would still be nice to have another soundboard of a Tusk show. That's why I find it hard to believe at least part of the story. Heavens knows that they were all wasted out of their minds and probably burnt out from touring, so it's hard to tell who to believe. Even though Lindsey and Stevie have turned being antagonist to each other into an art form, I still find it hard to believe some of these stories.
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The thing that strikes me about the New Zealand show mythology is that if it was broadcast on the radio why has it not been shared all these years later? We have good and crappy bootlegs of material all through the years, so it's hard to believe someone doesn't have a copy. It might be hard to tell what happened by just audio, but it would still be nice to have another soundboard of a Tusk show. That's why I find it hard to believe at least part of the story. Heavens knows that they were all wasted out of their minds and probably burnt out from touring, so it's hard to tell who to believe. Even though Lindsey and Stevie have turned being antagonist to each other into an art form, I still find it hard to believe some of these stories.
This ^^^ and I'll add that they have used all this pro and antagonist stuffs as great marketing. Nothing ruins a good story like the truth, Souldrifter.
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Even if there was a bootleg, I doubt it would be so noticeable that you would be able to hear anything. Its not like the band stopped playing mid song and Chris ran to get Lindsey. It was probably something inappropriate the band saw in the set and during their break before the encore it was "game on." Unless there was visual footage of the incident we must rely on folklore and urban legend.
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Th Nothing ruins a good story like the truth...
Yes. Remember how "Gold Dust Woman" was reframed as a cautionary drug tale in the late 90s? But in original interviews from 1977, Stevie talked about it being a song about jealous women who were hostile to her and Chris but "all smiles" when the men walked in the room.

In the 90s, the cocaine allegory was sexier.

And then there is "Landslide." I knew Stevie lost her marbles when, in 2005, she said "Landslide" is about Katrina. I realize that now."
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Consider the enormous variety of memories, several of them contradictory.

Stevie 2005: “We were on the last song of the set ... that is the first and only time we have not done an encore.”
Carol Harris: “The band had only been playing for a little while.”
Mick 1990: “Halfway through the performance, he snapped.”

Mick 1990: “He started to kick Stevie while she was trying to salvage the number [“Rhiannon”].
Rolling Stone 1997: “He came over—might have kicked me, did something to me, and we stopped the show.”
2009: “After their team meeting, Fleetwood Mac did return to the stage.”
Carol Harris: “The whole show fell apart.”

Mick 1990: “It turned out they [the audience] either didn't notice it or thought his behavior was part of the act, or just a joke.”
Carol Harris: “The audience was stunned.”
2009: “Street Talk was the support act that night ... as Fleetwood Mac deteriorated in front of our eyes, I remember a chant starting up—‘Bring back Street Talk.’ ”

2009: “It was March 1980 in Wellington ... that night in Athletic Park” [March 20, 1980].
Mojo 2003: “Playing to 60,000 in Auckland, New Zealand” [March 22, 1980, in Western Springs Stadium].
2009: “Hammond [opening act Street Talk] said the gig that followed at Western Springs was a good concert but Wellington was most definitely ‘meltdown night.’ ”
Mick 1990: “In mid-March we flew off to New Zealand to play in front of sixty thousand fans in Auckland.”

Did this happen in Auckland or Wellington?
Did the audience notice or not?
Did it happen during “Rhiannon” or the end of the show before the encore?
Did Fleetwood Mac return to the stage or not?
Did Lindsey kick or not?
Did Lindsey throw guitar or not? Why does Stevie call it a black Les Paul, when Lindsey was playing a Turner on every song that Stevie was onstage for?
This is an impressive presentation, David! No joke. Quite entertaining and instructive.
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