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Old 07-20-2023, 07:33 AM
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Fleetwood Mac was at the top of its game in August 1977 when the band returned to its adopted home in Southern California to play three shows at The Forum in Los Angeles. RUMOURS had only been out a few weeks when the band left in February to tour the world, returning six months later to play three shows at The Forum for nearly 50,000 fans.
RUMOURS LIVE captures the energy and excitement of the band’s opening night at The Forum on August 29, 1977.
The concert’s setlist draws almost exclusively from FLEETWOOD MAC and RUMOURS, the first two albums recorded by the band’s latest incarnation: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, and Christine McVie, and the newest members, Stevie Nicks, and Lindsey Buckingham. The lone nod to Fleetwood Mac’s other nine studio albums is a performance of “Oh Well,” a rock-guitar masterpiece originally released in 1969 and written by the band’s founder, guitarist Peter Green.
The concert remained unreleased for decades until 2021, when “Gold Dust Woman” from the show was included as a bonus track on LIVE: DELUXE EDITION, Rhino’s expanded version of Fleetwood Mac’s 1980 concert album. The other 17 songs on the collection have never been released before.
Engineer Ken Caillat, who helped record RUMOURS, also recorded the concert at The Forum using the Record Plant’s mobile recording truck. He captured the band’s impassioned performance at a moment of peak RUMOURS frenzy, including powerful versions of “Landslide,” “Never Going Back Again,” “Songbird,” and “The Chain.”
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Old 07-20-2023, 07:58 AM
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Fleetwood Mac was at the top of its game in August 1977 when the band returned to its adopted home in Southern California to play three shows at The Forum in Los Angeles. RUMOURS had only been out a few weeks when the band left in February to tour the world, returning six months later to play three shows at The Forum for nearly 50,000 fans.
RUMOURS LIVE captures the energy and excitement of the band’s opening night at The Forum on August 29, 1977.
The concert’s setlist draws almost exclusively from FLEETWOOD MAC and RUMOURS, the first two albums recorded by the band’s latest incarnation: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, and Christine McVie, and the newest members, Stevie Nicks, and Lindsey Buckingham. The lone nod to Fleetwood Mac’s other nine studio albums is a performance of “Oh Well,” a rock-guitar masterpiece originally released in 1969 and written by the band’s founder, guitarist Peter Green.
The concert remained unreleased for decades until 2021, when “Gold Dust Woman” from the show was included as a bonus track on LIVE: DELUXE EDITION, Rhino’s expanded version of Fleetwood Mac’s 1980 concert album. The other 17 songs on the collection have never been released before.
Engineer Ken Caillat, who helped record RUMOURS, also recorded the concert at The Forum using the Record Plant’s mobile recording truck. He captured the band’s impassioned performance at a moment of peak RUMOURS frenzy, including powerful versions of “Landslide,” “Never Going Back Again,” “Songbird,” and “The Chain.”
Not totally accurate. The versions of Monday Morning and World Turning both featured on the deluxe Rumours in 2013.
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Old 07-20-2023, 08:37 AM
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Not totally accurate. The versions of Monday Morning and World Turning both featured on the deluxe Rumours in 2013.
I figured. That was the write up on FM news. Which they probably pulled from Rhino.
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Old 07-20-2023, 08:38 AM
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As a working graphic designer, I have to say between this release and the Stevie box set I get the impression they gave the Fleetwood Mac account to the intern. Yikes.
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From memory which isn't the greatest anymore, I think they got the date of this show wrong. I was in LA in 1977 on a summer vacation and I remember driving past the Forum as a passenger and someone in the car said FM was performing there at that moment. We had traveled from the east coast and would not have still been there that late into August with school starting just a few days later.
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I think this is really cool and long overdue. The Rumours tour was kick ass. I have listend to many shows on youtube that were not even professionally recorded and they sounded so good. Several years ago when Sirius was promoting FM, they had a FM channel and the Gold Dust Woman from the Rumours tour was incredible.
I am surprised at the hate the cover is getting. Thats one of my favorite photos of the band and since its the flip side to Rumours makes all the sense to me.
It could not be a FM live release without a mix up on recording dates. The 1980 Live Album was all mixed up and had wrong dates. The Tusk deluxe issue included a Mirage tour The Chain and claimed it was the Tusk tour. Someone was always marking wrong dates or they dont really care. Maybe both?
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The Tusk deluxe issue included a Mirage tour The Chain and claimed it was the Tusk tour. Someone was always marking wrong dates or they dont really care. Maybe both?
That ‘82 Chain stuck out like a SORE THUMB the second I heard the beginning and saw the screen saying Richfield Ohio 1980. Sure 99% of people listening would never know but us Ledgies aren’t going to be fooled by some ‘82 Chain masking itself as an ‘80 Chain!
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It is in iTunes pre sale too. Available on sep. 8. Not very excited about it. Only if it's confirmed it's all unreleased material, maybe I'd consider it.

The best would be songs never heard live on any previous release.
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Not totally accurate. The versions of Monday Morning and World Turning both featured on the deluxe Rumours in 2013.
That may be true, but especially World Turning sounds totally different on this new release. The DeLuxe Rumours version sounds like it was recorded on a cheap type 1 cassette tape, the 'new' version sounds much brighter, instruments are in different places (left/middle/right), and Lindsey sounds years younger. It is obviously a remastered version.
The DeLuxe Monday Morning lacks the instrumental intro, and the guitar solo is totally different; it's more a Christine electric piano solo. The new version has a real guitar solo; I think it is another version than the previously released one.

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From the person who worked on the Little Feat reissues recently:

Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, I am not involved in the Mac catalogue, but am hopeful there will be more live stuff in the future. The response to the Rumors set has been extremely positive.
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From the person who worked on the Little Feat reissues recently:

Thanks for reaching out. Unfortunately, I am not involved in the Mac catalogue, but am hopeful there will be more live stuff in the future. The response to the Rumors set has been extremely positive.
I hope Rhino can stay afloat with these boutique releases. Most of these things probably don’t sell more than 5,000 copies. Nobody really hears about them, to begin with. Certain bands probably trigger more interest, like Dylan or the Eagles, but I can’t believe that live material from Fleetwood Mac interests anyone beyond a few thousand. I wonder how much it costs Rhino to pull one of these live albums together. Costs include licensing (maybe?), mastering, and printing. Marketing is just a YouTube video — you never see a display ad in Rolling Stone or elsewhere.

Twenty-five dollars times 5,000 copies is . . . $125,000. I dunno. Seems really marginal. Are these labors of love? Maybe Rhino makes it all up in volume of releases with dozens of bands represented.
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Some chart positions for Rumours Live are beginning to roll in. Here is what we have so far:

Japan: #62
New Zealand: #32
Scotland: #6
UK: #34
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Old 09-16-2023, 03:55 AM
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Some chart positions for Rumours Live are beginning to roll in. Here is what we have so far:

Japan: #62
New Zealand: #32
Scotland: #6
UK: #34
The Netherlands: #3 (from #11, in its 283rd week). For some reason, they combined the sales with the original album.

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Old 09-19-2023, 08:13 AM
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Some chart positions for Rumours Live are beginning to roll in. Here is what we have so far:

Japan: #62
New Zealand: #32
Scotland: #6
UK: #34
Some additional chart positions for ''Rumours Live''. Overall, they are very modest. In the US, the original ''Rumours'' album is at #34, which is probably bolstered by great streaming numbers.

France: #51
Spain: #80
US: #81
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Some chart positions for Rumours Live are beginning to roll in. Here is what we have so far:

Japan: #62
New Zealand: #32
Scotland: #6
UK: #34
That's lower than I might have expected for the UK. Rumours itself is on its mind-boggling 1010th week on the chart at #22. The 50 years- Don't Stop compilation is up to #7 after 252 weeks. I'm pleased that the casual fan might be hearing some of those 9 tracks from KH to HAHTF that are on the 3 disc edition for the first time, even if Why is absent. It annoys me that the final configuation of the band couldn't be bothered to record a single track for it, just for the sake of completeness. That says it all, really.
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