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Old 07-13-2023, 11:37 AM
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Tango In The Night has the worst album cover in Fleetwood Mac history
Worse than Heroes are hard to find??? If that is true I need therapy.
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Old 07-13-2023, 11:51 AM
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I love the Heroes concept and photos!
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My truly unpopular opinions:

Street Angel is Stevie’s best overall solo album, but Shangri La has the highest high points. Still, I can find something on all the albums to love.

I greatly prefer Lindsey’s singing voice before he hit about age 35. So many people say they prefer his deeper middle-age voice, but not me, bucko.

The band hasn’t been terribly interesting (to me) or innovative as a live act since the 1980 shows. Up till that time, they had the same funky energy as the Talking Heads and were a truly great live act. After that, I was more interested in their studio work than their concerts.

Fleetwood Mac has this reputation for great harmonizing, but after Rumours, did they even harmonize that much? Or well?

Individually, the instrumentalists in the band from 1975 to 1997 (or 2015) were never virtuosos. Their individual technique on their respective instruments was hampered by being less than technically gifted. (Even Lindsey’s Travis picking is usually sloppy and stumbling.) Their style, however, is what made them fascinating. They were all such batsh*t, idiosyncratic players that the tension between their technical shortcomings and their personal voice is what made them legendary and what made them more enduring than the conventional hotshots in music. Think of Dylan: terrible singer in conventional terms but a vocal personality that is so “right” it’s legendary. Sometimes the oddballs feel up the yin and the yang of the music a million times better than the Eddie Van Halens and Keith Emersons.

Despite his songs — many of which are quite cool — onstage Bob Welch was charmless — sort of pushy and geeky. (Offstage, however, he was a good conversationalist in interviews.)

I wish Dave Walker had written more music for Fleetwood Mac. “The Derelict” is the only song I really love.

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I am shocked to see someone else liking Street Angel. Its not her best but its a good album or at least half of it is very solid. Its a return to a guitar orientated country rock vibe that suits her well. Vocally its her last album where she is not flat and has a great voice. She is not trying to be a radio pop star on the album. Its more classic and vintage Stevie. And I love that. Although it was a mistake her doing a Bob Dylan song. But I do like it when Stevie writes about current events like the Gulf War and homeless children.

Bella Donna is a masterpiece like Rumours. She wrote awesome songs and her musicians and players were some of the best. Yes Jimmy deserves major credit. But while SDMHA does add the the album. The album did not need it. Jimmy's fear was that the album was good but no one would hear it because it had not catchy pop rock radio songs that would chart as singles. He was right in a sense that SDMHA charted highest. But Edge of 17 and Leather and Lace would have worked just fine as the major hits on the album. I bet Edge of 17 would have been a fantastic lead off single into the top 10 easily.

People are misinterpreting my Big Love comments. I dont find it odd at all that the record company picked it as the first single. It was edgy and fit with the spring of 1987 perfectly. Of course it was going to be a big hit. However its a song you never hear anymore even on 80s channels. The song has no legs and is fairly cheezy. Lindsey did a nice acoustic in 1997 but even that got old after awhile. I am a horrible song writer and I could have written that song in study hall in high school.
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I am shocked to see someone else liking Street Angel. Its not her best but its a good album or at least half of it is very solid. Its a return to a guitar orientated country rock vibe that suits her well. Vocally its her last album where she is not flat and has a great voice. She is not trying to be a radio pop star on the album. Its more classic and vintage Stevie. And I love that. Although it was a mistake her doing a Bob Dylan song. But I do like it when Stevie writes about current events like the Gulf War and homeless children.

Bella Donna is a masterpiece like Rumours. She wrote awesome songs and her musicians and players were some of the best. Yes Jimmy deserves major credit. But while SDMHA does add the the album. The album did not need it. Jimmy's fear was that the album was good but no one would hear it because it had not catchy pop rock radio songs that would chart as singles. He was right in a sense that SDMHA charted highest. But Edge of 17 and Leather and Lace would have worked just fine as the major hits on the album. I bet Edge of 17 would have been a fantastic lead off single into the top 10 easily.

People are misinterpreting my Big Love comments. I dont find it odd at all that the record company picked it as the first single. It was edgy and fit with the spring of 1987 perfectly. Of course it was going to be a big hit. However its a song you never hear anymore even on 80s channels. The song has no legs and is fairly cheezy. Lindsey did a nice acoustic in 1997 but even that got old after awhile. I am a horrible song writer and I could have written that song in study hall in high school.

BHAHAHAHAHAHA.......BHAHAHAHAHAHA Sure Jan!
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I'm walking down the street
There is a house on the hill
The night is so still
Looking for love. Love love love All the love

You always said you loved me
You know you wanted to live in my house on that hill
Looking for love. Love love love. All the love

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Looking for love. That love love love



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Thought of another one that definitely is an unpopular opinion.
I like Desert Angel. I think the military style drum march is pretty cool. The lyrics would be hard to put to music but I think it works rather well. I love the rare klonopin howls and screams at the end too. So rare. I think some of the lyrics are a bit arrogant and cheezy but somehow it all works.
I actually like all 3 new songs on Timespace.

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I greatly prefer Lindsey’s singing voice before he hit about age 35. So many people say they prefer his deeper middle-age voice, but not me, bucko.

The band hasn’t been terribly interesting (to me) or innovative as a live act since the 1980 shows. Up till that time, they had the same funky energy as the Talking Heads and were a truly great live act. After that, I was more interested in their studio work than their concerts.

Fleetwood Mac has this reputation for great harmonizing, but after Rumours, did they even harmonize that much? Or well?

Individually, the instrumentalists in the band from 1975 to 1997 (or 2015) were never virtuosos. Their individual technique on their respective instruments was hampered by being less than technically gifted. (Even Lindsey’s Travis picking is usually sloppy and stumbling.) Their style, however, is what made them fascinating. They were all such batsh*t, idiosyncratic players that the tension between their technical shortcomings and their personal voice is what made them legendary and what made them more enduring than the conventional hotshots in music. Think of Dylan: terrible singer in conventional terms but a vocal personality that is so “right” it’s legendary. Sometimes the oddballs feel up the yin and the yang of the music a million times better than the Eddie Van Halens and Keith Emersons.

Despite his songs — many of which are quite cool — onstage Bob Welch was charmless — sort of pushy and geeky. (Offstage, however, he was a good conversationalist in interviews.)
I’m not sure any of these are unpopular opinions. They seem spot on to me. The only thing I’d argue is that the band’s 1982 version of Not That Funny is among their best live work...
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