Renaming Albums

[Villavic]

I would change Mirage, but not decided the new name yet. It would be related with somethng french.

[DashingDan]

Originally Posted by Villavic

I would change Mirage, but not decided the new name yet. It would be related with somethng french.

Something French? ...Champagne!

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by DashingDan

Something French? ...Champagne!

I thought of that as well but I don't think that dud had been composed yet at the time of Mirage.It reeks of the demented grandiosity and extreme cocaine addiction that would come soon after that .

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by DashingDan

Something French? ...Champagne!

Or Penguin Château (Château d'Hérouville is the same where Eltons's Honky Château was recorded).

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Or Penguin Château (Château d'Hérouville is the same where Eltons's Honky Château was recorded).

God, I've always loved this photo.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

God, I've always loved this photo.

The end of an era.. Fleetwood Mac would never be quite the same again.

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Villavic

Or Penguin Château (Château d'Hérouville is the same where Eltons's Honky Château was recorded).

It looks like chris is practically holding john up on the steps.

but i do love this picture.

I wish Ken Caillat would write a book about making Mirage, just like he did about Rumours and Tusk. that must have been quite a time in that chateau.

--Lis

[vivfox]

Say You Will should have been titled: Steal Your Heart Away

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Penguin Emeritus

It looks like chris is practically holding john up on the steps.

but i do love this picture.

I wish Ken Caillat would write a book about making Mirage, just like he did about Rumours and Tusk. that must have been quite a time in that chateau.

--Lis

the part that I want to know about is when Stevie arrived, having just completed her first (very successful) solo tour, accompanied by her boyfriend Jimmy Iovine... and some sort of kerfuffle ensued between Lindsey and Jimmy, which by all accounts was instigated by Lindsey and resulted in Jimmy getting on a plane and going back to the US rather than staying the 10 days he had planned to stay. That majorly impacted Stevie and Jimmy's romantic relationship by all accounts. I want to know did that essentially break them up? did he never come back to the chateau? Did he ever spend time on that tour with her? Or was it so f***ed up from that he stayed away? I would have strong sympathy for Stevie in that situation if your ex behaves so badly that it breaks up your present relationship, while he continued to drag *his* new girlfriend around with the band everywhere for years.....

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

the part that I want to know about is when Stevie arrived, having just completed her first (very successful) solo tour, accompanied by her boyfriend Jimmy Iovine... and some sort of kerfuffle ensued between Lindsey and Jimmy, which by all accounts was instigated by Lindsey and resulted in Jimmy getting on a plane and going back to the US rather than staying the 10 days he had planned to stay. That majorly impacted Stevie and Jimmy's romantic relationship by all accounts. I want to know did that essentially break them up? did he never come back to the chateau? Did he ever spend time on that tour with her? Or was it so f***ed up from that he stayed away? I would have strong sympathy for Stevie in that situation if your ex behaves so badly that it breaks up your present relationship, while he continued to drag *his* new girlfriend around with the band everywhere for years.....

Who knows...even Ken C. who likes to kiss the nicks ring has said she was completely out of control coming into the mirage sessions.

[BigAl84]

Christine on the making of Mirage (2016):

Well, I don’t think any of us remember a huge amount about it! But I don’t remember there being anything bad about it, how about that [laughs]?

It was extremely odd in the sense that it wasn’t really a studio. It really was a rather beaten-up old castle. We were living in it, and then there was another area that was made to be a studio. And there were wine cellars underneath, which I believe we used as echo chambers. So it was unusual, but it also provided a “come-together” sort of moment. Because we really had no options to do anything else. In Sausalito, at least you were close to restaurants, clubs, whatever. But at the chateau, you were just there. We had the table tennis out, we had some radio-controlled helicopters, we had food cooked for us every night on the premises. … I don’t know, it was like some weird, manic kind of resort or something. But I think we got on really well during the making of the record. The actual recording part of it, there were no particular spats I can think of. And some of the tracks are really good.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

the part that I want to know about is when Stevie arrived, having just completed her first (very successful) solo tour, accompanied by her boyfriend Jimmy Iovine... and some sort of kerfuffle ensued between Lindsey and Jimmy, which by all accounts was instigated by Lindsey and resulted in Jimmy getting on a plane and going back to the US rather than staying the 10 days he had planned to stay. That majorly impacted Stevie and Jimmy's romantic relationship by all accounts. I want to know did that essentially break them up? did he never come back to the chateau? Did he ever spend time on that tour with her? Or was it so f***ed up from that he stayed away? I would have strong sympathy for Stevie in that situation if your ex behaves so badly that it breaks up your present relationship, while he continued to drag *his* new girlfriend around with the band everywhere for years.....

It is an interesting piece of history. Anytime an ex is with an ex who brings their new significant other is a tense time. Stevie and Lindsey never got over their relationship. Being that Jimmy was not just her boyfriend but producer who made her a solo star with a #1 album was probably too much for him to take. Also I can see Lindsey being annoyed like "why did you bring him here, we dont need a producer."

[Penguin Emeritus]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

It is an interesting piece of history. Anytime an ex is with an ex who brings their new significant other is a tense time. Stevie and Lindsey never got over their relationship. Being that Jimmy was not just her boyfriend but producer who made her a solo star with a #1 album was probably too much for him to take. Also I can see Lindsey being annoyed like "why did you bring him here, we dont need a producer."

That's very true. I thought I had heard (from Ken, maybe?) that there were not supposed to be any peripherals around during the time at the chateau..that was part of the point of going there, to get everyone away from family, partners, distractions etc and just be around each other. which is the impression i get from chris's description...but I wonder if lindsey was upset that Jimmy-- sort of an 'outsider'--was there, when nobody else had any partners with them?

--Lis