CHRISTINE MCVIE Legacy Celebrated ... FLEETWOOD MAC PAYS TRIBUTE

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

You do realize that they recorded Farmer's and Blue Letter, and PUT THEM ON ALBUMS, right? My god, you're consistent in that your queen can do no wrong.

Oh, so now it has to be be put on an album, too, and THEN a band with Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, and Christine McVie wouldn’t be Fakewood Mac. Got it.

And here I thought you guys were calling them Fakewood Mac because you were mad they kicked Lindsey out, but now I see- it’s because they performed two songs live in concert that they had never recorded on an album!

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Oh, so now it has to be be put on an album, too, and THEN a band with Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, and Christine McVie wouldn’t be Fakewood Mac. Got it.

And here I thought you guys were calling them Fakewood Mac because you were mad they kicked Lindsey out, but now I see- it’s because they performed two songs live in concert that they had never recorded on an album!

Mad is when you only have a few more slurps left of your Dairy Queen blizzard.

It was a train wreck burnt offering conspiracy. If Lindsey punched Stevie in the face and he was fired, many could understand and handle that. But we got drip by drip falsehoods and lies about this "new" band. They sold out their souls for money not to mention unlike other decisions to tour, this was planned, contract signed to include Lindsey. One member should not have that power of extortion over a band and recreate that band to their liking.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Mad is when you only have a few more slurps left of your Dairy Queen blizzard.

It was a train wreck burnt offering conspiracy. If Lindsey punched Stevie in the face and he was fired, many could understand and handle that. But we got drip by drip falsehoods and lies about this "new" band. They sold out their souls for money not to mention unlike other decisions to tour, this was planned, contract signed to include Lindsey. One member should not have that power of extortion over a band and recreate that band to their liking.

Eh, I’m not sure Mick wasn’t being serious about it being a “new band” (new chapter would have been more appropriate, but I’m not nitpicking something a 70-something says). I legitimately think he thought adding Mike and Neil would lead to a new album and maybe another run of live shows beyond the 18-19 tour. I mean, if I was trying to lure Stevie into the studio, I’d start with Mike Campbell, too. And Neil seems like he’d be easygoing enough to make it an enjoyable process.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Mad is when you only have a few more slurps left of your Dairy Queen blizzard.

They sold out their souls for money not to mention unlike other decisions to tour, this was planned, contract signed to include Lindsey. One member should not have that power of extortion over a band and recreate that band to their liking.

See, I just can’t say that firing someone is comparable to “selling their souls.” And one member only had the power because three other people totally backed her up, so there’s that.

But your point about the Dairy Queen Blizzard is noted

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by bwboy

They sang Don’t Dream It’s Over, Free Falling, and I Got You, and then dropped I Got You. So they’re not Fleetwood Mac because they sang two covers on the same tour? Like when they performed Blue Letter and the Farmer’s Daughter when Lindsey was with them? Those were cover songs as well. I think two or even three cover songs is pretty tolerable in a setlist of 22-24 songs, and hardly makes it a cover band. And for all the outrage people had about them singing cover songs, there were others who were just as outraged they performed any of Lindsey’s songs. The old damned if they do, damned if they don’t dilemma.

FM actually performed DDIO, IGY, and FF towards the end of the tour as well when the setlist was 20 songs.

Blue Letter was first released by Fleetwood Mac. It's like Talk To Me - that's a Stevie song. Blue Letter is a FM song. Farmer's Daughter is not an FM song.

I think those three covers should've been rare Stevie songs or even Billy or Rick songs instead. They really should have been new FM songs

Bottom line, there should have been at least one newly recorded song in the 2018 setlist. They were able to do it in 2013. No reason why they couldn't in 2018.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

FM actually performed DDIO, IGY, and FF towards the end of the tour as well when the setlist was 20 songs.

Blue Letter was first released by Fleetwood Mac. It's like Talk To Me - that's a Stevie song. Blue Letter is a FM song. Farmer's Daughter is not an FM song.

I think those three covers should've been rare Stevie songs or even Billy or Rick songs.

Bottom line, there should have been at least one newly recorded song in the 2018 setlist. They were able to do it in 2013. No reason why they couldn't in 2018.

Are you sure about I Got You? I know that was played in the early shows, but by the time I saw them in early November, that song, Hypnotized, and Storms had been dropped, all to my dismay.

I wish before the tour they had released an album with newly recorded versions of I Got You, Don’t Dream It’s Over, Hypnotized, Storms, Black Magic Woman, Isn’t It Midnight, Oh Well, All Over Again, Tell Me All the Things You So, Man of the World, Sentimental Lady, and a new song or two, but it didn’t happen. Maybe that would have helped keep the audience be more accepting of the songs they dropped early on, who knows?

I totally agree with you that it would have been awesome if they had performed some songs from Rick and Billy’s time with the band. I would have passed out right there on the floor. How I wish they had consulted me about their setlist beforehand LOL!

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Are you sure about I Got You? I know that was played in the early shows

They brought it back for the Oceana leg.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

Blue Letter was first released by Fleetwood Mac. It's like Talk To Me - that's a Stevie song.

“Talk To Me” was written by Chas Sandford who’s a professional songwriter and publisher. He specifically writes songs for others to sing. He also wrote John Waite's "Missing You.”

“Blue Letter” was another band’s song.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

“Blue Letter” was another band’s song.

What year was Blue Letter released by another band?

[WalkAThinLine.]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

What year was Blue Letter released by another band?

It was written by Richard and Michael Curtis, who happened to be recording in the same studio as Fleetwood Mac. The band heard the song and decided to include on the White Album.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

What year was Blue Letter released by another band?

Doesn’t matter. They were recording their album at Sound City. Lindsey and Stevie heard it and Lindsey reworked it for Buckingham Nicks/Fleetwood Mac. It wasn’t being shopped around.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

If they're going to choose covers over Fleetwood Mac material, why are they going out as Fleetwood Mac?

I think you're missing the point that it's not just the absence of one member that has caused people to call it "Fakewood"

The same reason they played “I’d Rather Go Blind,” “Get Like You Used To Be,” “Don’t Let Me Down Again,” and (briefly) “Frozen Love.”

Also, “Tear It Up,” “The Bigger the Love,” “We Just Disagree,” “Only You Know & I Know,” “Feelin’ Alright,” and “Dear Mr. Fantasy.”

ETA: And “Stand Back,” “Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You,” “Go Insane” (OOTC tour acoustic version), and “Go Insane” (full band version).

Not to mention they rerecorded a Buckingham Nicks song on a studio album.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

The same reason they played “I’d Rather Go Blind,” “Get Like You Used To Be,” “Don’t Let Me Down Again,” and (briefly) “Frozen Love.”

Also, “Tear It Up,” “The Bigger the Love,” “We Just Disagree,” “Only You Know & I Know,” “Feelin’ Alright,” and “Dear Mr. Fantasy.”

ETA: And “Stand Back,” “Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You,” “Go Insane” (OOTC tour acoustic version), and “Go Insane” (full band version).

Not to mention they rerecorded a Buckingham Nicks song on a studio album.

One difference is that the previous lineups that played solo or other band songs in a FM set before 2018 had actually made music with Fleetwood Mac.

I wouldn't have wanted to hear these songs but those three covers could've been Lay It All Down, The Green Manalishi, and Jewel-Eyed Judy. I would've wanted Crystal, Angel (Stevie), and Straight Back, but that wouldn't have been fair.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by UnwindedDreams

One difference is that the previous lineups that played solo or other band songs in a FM set before 2018 had actually made music with Fleetwood Mac.

That’s pretzel logic spin. Those songs were from works that were initially recorded external from Fleetwood Mac. There is no differentiation.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

That’s pretzel logic spin. Those songs were from works that were initially recorded external from Fleetwood Mac. There is no differentiation.

It's not spin. It's an opinion. Please be respectful and not combative.

Also, as you've said, the 2018 Tour was a 50th Anniversary Tour. Crowded House, Split Enz, and Tom Petty songs had no relevance in a setlist presenting the 50 Years of Fleetwood Mac's recordings.