Christine McVie Songbird Info

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Or maybe they believe their own gaslighting after all these years. Bob is dead so she would be bitter to hold a grudge against him even after his demise. I believe I read on Bob's site many years ago how he convinced the band to give it a go in the states.

But Chris is supposed to be the sane one. We all know what $tevie is.

Nobody is disputing that if Bob's link weren't in the chain, probably NONE of us would be here on this site, now.

Let's face this, THESE AREN'T GOOD PEOPLE.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

But Chris is supposed to be the sane one. We all know what $tevie is.

Nobody is disputing that if Bob's link weren't in the chain, probably NONE of us would be here on this site, now.

Let's face this, THESE AREN'T GOOD PEOPLE.

Honestly, I don’t think she mentions Bob because it’s easier for her to mention the two people (part of the Rumours five) most of the general public would still know. This doesn’t excuse the Bob omission. He was treated pretty badly by that band from 1983 onward—after the Bob and friends concert there is rarely ever any recognition of him. Christine and Mick needed to step up and didn’t. But Lindsey is also to blame. Whenever he mentions Bob it’s with a marked degree of disrespect for his legacy. Time and again, Lindsey has made sure the world knew he did NOT dig Bob’s music and resented having to play one or two Bob songs on the first two tours. That kind of consistency in shunning Welch’s contribution is as much to blame as outright omissions. The critics aided Lindsey in this. And the core trio (Fleetwood and the McVies) allowed it. Ironically, through the years, Stevie was occasionally quick to recognize Bob and enumerate his contributions.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Honestly, I don’t think she mentions Bob because it’s easier for her to mention the two people (part of the Rumours five) most of the general public would still know. This doesn’t excuse the Bob omission. He was treated pretty badly by that band from 1983 onward—after the Bob and friends concert there is rarely ever any recognition of him. Christine and Mick needed to step up and didn’t. But Lindsey is also to blame. Whenever he mentions Bob it’s with a marked degree of disrespect for his legacy. Time and again, Lindsey has made sure the world knew he did NOT dig Bob’s music and resented having to play one or two Bob songs on the first two tours. That kind of consistency in shunning Welch’s contribution is as much to blame as outright omissions. The critics aided Lindsey in this. And the core trio (Fleetwood and the McVies) allowed it. Ironically, through the years, Stevie was occasionally quick to recognize Bob and enumerate his contributions.

It's true. Lindsey quite often marginalizes Bob's music and Stevie has never done that. As if he were some artistic genius and everyone else was always a lounge act. I don't think Lindsey has anything against Bob. He just thinks his music is above what the other writers have put out. And when you listen to his recent stuff, it's mind boggling how he can think any of these lyrics are beyond what Bob wrote.
I don't mind, we've been mellow.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

It's true. Lindsey quite often marginalizes Bob's music and Stevie has never done that. As if he were some artistic genius and everyone else was always a lounge act. I don't think Lindsey has anything against Bob. He just thinks his music is above what the other writers have put out. And when you listen to his recent stuff, it's mind boggling how he can think any of these lyrics are beyond what Bob wrote.
I don't mind, we've been mellow.

Please fill me in what Lindsey said to diminish Bob. I must have missed something. I dont equate Lindsey not wanting to perform Bob's songs as a dis. Lindsey did not want to be a cover band of someone else.
There is one story from Bob's site I would LOVE to ask Lindsey about. Its the story that Bob said he ran into Lindsey shortly after he quit the band and they were recording the White album. Bob said that Lindsey asked him "How the hell did you stand these people?"
I just found that so funny.

I once heard Lindsey diminish Eddie Van Halen and if I did not hear it I would not believe it. It was something like how Van Halen is one dimensional and has no melody. Its just guitar chords. I am paraphrasing badly and cant remember the exact quote I heard in some interview. He wasnt going after Eddie but was comparing his style to his and it sounded like a dis to me because I remember thinking OUCH!

[HomerMcvie]

Although he's mellowed greatly with age, Lindsey was always full of himself.

And yeah, I get that he didn't want to play someone else's hits, but then they shouldn't have joined FM if that were the case.

"Hey Birmingham, how ya doin'?", (to all three Buckingham Nicks fans that are still alive!)

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

Although he's mellowed greatly with age, Lindsey was always full of himself.

And yeah, I get that he didn't want to play someone else's hits, but then they shouldn't have joined FM if that were the case.

"Hey Birmingham, how ya doin'?", (to all three Buckingham Nicks fans that are still alive!)

Since Lindsey played bass before it was hysterical in Mick's first book when Lindsey told John to do it "this way" during the making of the Fleetwood Mac album. They had a big blow up and then Lindsey learned not to question John and his playing ever again. I think Mick commented that it was a good thing to happen right away to put perimeters around each player. John was not going to let some California new kid on the block tell him how to play bass I'm John F***ing McVie you bloody berk!

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Since Lindsey played bass before it was hysterical in Mick's first book when Lindsey told John to do it "this way" during the making of the Fleetwood Mac album. They had a big blow up and then Lindsey learned not to question John and his playing ever again. I think Mick commented that it was a good thing to happen right away to put perimeters around each player. John was not going to let some California new kid on the block tell him how to play bass I'm John F***ing McVie you bloody berk!

Lindsey was a spoiled brat, who was used to always getting his way.

[WalkAThinLine.]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Since Lindsey played bass before it was hysterical in Mick's first book when Lindsey told John to do it "this way" during the making of the Fleetwood Mac album. They had a big blow up and then Lindsey learned not to question John and his playing ever again. I think Mick commented that it was a good thing to happen right away to put perimeters around each player. John was not going to let some California new kid on the block tell him how to play bass I'm John F***ing McVie you bloody berk!

Buckingham's bass playing isn't even anything special. He rarely ventures out beyond the root notes. I believe one reviewer called the bass playing on Buckingham's eponymous album "uninventive" or something along those lines.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Please fill me in what Lindsey said to diminish Bob. I must have missed something. I dont equate Lindsey not wanting to perform Bob's songs as a dis. Lindsey did not want to be a cover band of someone else.
There is one story from Bob's site I would LOVE to ask Lindsey about. Its the story that Bob said he ran into Lindsey shortly after he quit the band and they were recording the White album. Bob said that Lindsey asked him "How the hell did you stand these people?"
I just found that so funny.

I once heard Lindsey diminish Eddie Van Halen and if I did not hear it I would not believe it. It was something like how Van Halen is one dimensional and has no melody. Its just guitar chords. I am paraphrasing badly and cant remember the exact quote I heard in some interview. He wasnt going after Eddie but was comparing his style to his and it sounded like a dis to me because I remember thinking OUCH!

Lindsey initially bristled against Bob’s legacy and then, once the band became widely popular, overtly discredited it. He has done this on numerous occasions, from 1976-recent years. He recognizes Green and Kirwan as antecedents, but only mentions Bob’s music in a negative context, as a disavowal.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Please fill me in what Lindsey said to diminish Bob. I must have missed something. I dont equate Lindsey not wanting to perform Bob's songs as a dis. Lindsey did not want to be a cover band of someone else.
There is one story from Bob's site I would LOVE to ask Lindsey about. Its the story that Bob said he ran into Lindsey shortly after he quit the band and they were recording the White album. Bob said that Lindsey asked him "How the hell did you stand these people?"
I just found that so funny.

I once heard Lindsey diminish Eddie Van Halen and if I did not hear it I would not believe it. It was something like how Van Halen is one dimensional and has no melody. Its just guitar chords. I am paraphrasing badly and cant remember the exact quote I heard in some interview. He wasnt going after Eddie but was comparing his style to his and it sounded like a dis to me because I remember thinking OUCH!

Lindsey liked Bob, and had a hard time dealing with the brits up arrival (yes, they shared that vibe and conversation). It's not as rosy as Christine likes to paint it when they all first met. And yes; she, Mick, and Lindsey even helped him produce and perform on a couple of Bob's albums.

But, in interviews when talking about the Welch period,(especially lately) he's always made cheeky kinds of comments about how that music wasn't up to what he was doing. And of course, yes he hated doing Hypmotized, and Green Man, etc. Also, read the law suit and see what he has to say about Welch period.

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

It's true. Lindsey quite often marginalizes Bob's music and Stevie has never done that. As if he were some artistic genius and everyone else was always a lounge act. I don't think Lindsey has anything against Bob. He just thinks his music is above what the other writers have put out. And when you listen to his recent stuff, it's mind boggling how he can think any of these lyrics are beyond what Bob wrote.
I don't mind, we've been mellow.

For what it’s worth, when interviewed a year after LB/CM, the interviewer tried to open the door on two or three occasions to get him to say nice things about Christine’s songs and singing and he just wouldn’t do it. He stuck to admiring her commitment craft. That’s as far as he went.