Christine becomes the 4th member to sell her catalog

vivfox · #1 08-10-2021, 08:26 AM

OMG now Michele is going to pounce on me to try to find that 1988 Billboard article I had stating Christine sold her publishing.

dougl · #2 08-10-2021, 09:35 AM

https://worldradiohistory.com/hd2/ID...ine%20mcvie%22

Villavic · #3 08-10-2021, 09:48 AM

I’m no completely sure what selling a catalog means. When I read about Dylan selling his catalog, it meant the new owner will not have to share any future earnings from this contribution with Dylan. In addition, he lost control over the copyright of all the songs he has created during his career.

Are these always the same terms? It’s the same with Christine songs? What happen if the band (well, I’m being polite, if Mick…) want to reissue Rumours (don't laugh, it's always possible)? Do they have to ask Hypgnosis permission? Or just share the revenue with them? Same with live songs, if Fleetwood Mac (whatever lineup with Christine) play her songs live, they need Hypgnosis permission? How does all this work from now on?

bwboy · #4 08-10-2021, 10:23 AM

Villavic, I don’t believe if FM performs songs live that they have to pay the songwriter, or Hipgnosis. What I believe Hipgnosic can do with any catalogs they’ve purchased is get royalties if the songs are used in movies. For example, if the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie includes Little Lies, then Hipgnosis would receive payment, not the songwriter(s). Also, they would have to grant permission for the movie to use the song. So what can happen, and why some people get cranky about songwriters selling their catalog even though it’s none of their business, is that Hypgnosis can sell the song for commercials. Imagine You Make Loving Fun being used in a commercial for a dating app, or Over My Head for a bankruptcy commercial.

I’m sure there’s much more to it, but those are the things that are most commonly associated with selling catalogs. Basically, they sell the rights now instead of leaving the estate to deal with it. I don’t blame any of them one bit for selling catalogs of songs that are nearly 50 years old. Get the cash now and divvy it up in their wills.

Macfan4life · #5 08-10-2021, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by bwboy

Villavic, I don’t believe if FM performs songs live that they have to pay the songwriter, or Hipgnosis. What I believe Hipgnosic can do with any catalogs they’ve purchased is get royalties if the songs are used in movies. For example, if the next Guardians of the Galaxy movie includes Little Lies, then Hipgnosis would receive payment, not the songwriter(s). Also, they would have to grant permission for the movie to use the song. So what can happen, and why some people get cranky about songwriters selling their catalog even though it’s none of their business, is that Hypgnosis can sell the song for commercials. Imagine You Make Loving Fun being used in a commercial for a dating app, or Over My Head for a bankruptcy commercial.

I’m sure there’s much more to it, but those are the things that are most commonly associated with selling catalogs. Basically, they sell the rights now instead of leaving the estate to deal with it. I don’t blame any of them one bit for selling catalogs of songs that are nearly 50 years old. Get the cash now and divvy it up in their wills.

Maybe we'll see Bad Loser in the next presidential campaign

BigAl84 · #6 08-10-2021, 11:12 AM

She could have simply purchased the rights back at some point in time, right?

McCartney said he contemplated buying the rights back from Michael Jackson several times over the decades.

HomerMcvie · #7 08-10-2021, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84

She could have simply purchased the rights back at some point in time, right?

McCartney said he contemplated buying the rights back from Michael Jackson several times over the decades.

If so, isn't it weird that none of us has ever heard about it? I mean we share everything FM that we ever come across... how DARE Christine do something without our knowLEDGE!

BigAl84 · #8 08-10-2021, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

If so, isn't it weird that none of us has ever heard about it? I mean we share everything FM that we ever come across... how DARE Christine do something without our knowLEDGE!

It's more likely to become a headline when somebody else purchases the rights from Christine and they put out a press release. It's less likely any headlines were made if she quietly purchased the rights back.

Macfan4life · #9 08-10-2021, 11:45 AM

I wonder how much they originally sold for? I also wonder how much they sold for now?

When she came back to the band, I am curious why or if she bought them back?

Money makes the world go around. Not THAT long ago, artists would never sell any rights just to keep their art. Now many of them do it toward the end of their career.
Prince is rolling over in his grave.

HomerMcvie · #10 08-10-2021, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BigAl84

It's more likely to become a headline when somebody else purchases the rights from Christine and they put out a press release. It's less likely any headlines were made if she quietly purchased the rights back.

Well, and she isn't an attention wh*re like the rest of them.