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Old 07-21-2021, 12:06 AM
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Do you REALLY think they would have hit superstar status without Lindsey??? They f*cking OWE him. And after all the love they shared on BuckVie?!?!? Christine should be ASHAMED. She's a terrible friend.
I AGREE with what you’re saying here. I even said something similar in my comment above.

But what I am also saying is no amount of betrayal and shame Christine, Mick, and John must and should feel compares to the toxic nature of the Lindsey-Stevie relationship. That the Brits had to essentially center that dynamic in everything they have done since 1976 has got to be nothing short of terrible.

In other words, Lindsey is no saint either. He and Stevie are to blame for his firing. I would have preferred they continued on without Stevie and kept him (if such a choice had to be made) but the fact that those two have stolen most of the air in the room—well, that is NOT Christine’s fault.
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Old 07-21-2021, 12:43 AM
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I AGREE with what you’re saying here. I even said something similar in my comment above.

But what I am also saying is no amount of betrayal and shame Christine, Mick, and John must and should feel compares to the toxic nature of the Lindsey-Stevie relationship. That the Brits had to essentially center that dynamic in everything they have done since 1976 has got to be nothing short of terrible.

In other words, Lindsey is no saint either. He and Stevie are to blame for his firing. I would have preferred they continued on without Stevie and kept him (if such a choice had to be made) but the fact that those two have stolen most of the air in the room—well, that is NOT Christine’s fault.
I agree that their relationship was horribly toxic. And embarrassing, that 70yo people were STILL acting like they're children.

I can understand his side of things far more than hers, as $he just bugs the sh*t out of me. $he won the game, and he's jealous. Yet $he's a card carrying idiot. And still the $eat filler. His ENORMOUS talent sits in her shadow. Her piano playing is the most embarrassing sh*t I've ever heard...

I guess there's no accounting for taste(I don't mean you, Tony).
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Old 07-21-2021, 04:03 PM
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But what I am also saying is no amount of betrayal and shame Christine, Mick, and John must and should feel compares to the toxic nature of the Lindsey-Stevie relationship. That the Brits had to essentially center that dynamic in everything they have done since 1976 has got to be nothing short of terrible.
When we all think of Fleetwood Mac, we should all be thinking of innovation and mastery and craftsmanship and about-face live performances. Instead, most people think about that “dynamic” — the fighting and the sexual intermingling and the chaos. That’s the stuff that starts off every article about the band over the past fifty years. The nonsense always made them money but degraded their actual achievements. Any discussion about Fleetwood Mac should center on great tracks with inventive arrangements, good songwriting, catchy hits, the most interesting balance of male and female in rock, and full-throttle live shows. But the junk that takes priority over everything is the junk you’re talking about, the reality TV junk with members scrapping with each other year after year and never growing up.

What did Bowie write? You can practically hear the McVies in this:

Don’t tell them to grow up and out of it
Where's your shame?
You’ve left us up to our necks in it
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I don’t think Christine is a terrible person but she failed Lindsey and she failed the band. And of course people want to know what part she played (passive, submissive, apathetic, etc) because the only songs she had released in over a decade were engineered by Lindsey. And I think it meant a lot to Christine to put out new music, or else she wouldn’t have done it. It’s f’ed up to watch the documentary on the LB/CM album and then be faced with the reality that Lindsey was fired from FM and she just…did nothing.

Also, we see you Christine, using housing an excuse since at least the early 90s.
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I don’t think Christine is a terrible person but she failed Lindsey and she failed the band. And of course people want to know what part she played (passive, submissive, apathetic, etc) because the only songs she had released in over a decade were engineered by Lindsey. And I think it meant a lot to Christine to put out new music, or else she wouldn’t have done it. It’s f’ed up to watch the documentary on the LB/CM album and then be faced with the reality that Lindsey was fired from FM and she just…did nothing.

Also, we see you Christine, using housing an excuse since at least the early 90s.
Let's face it. Both McVies are spineless.
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Let's face it. Both McVies are spineless.
Christine was almost homeless! She almost didn’t have one of her homes!
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Christine was almost homeless! She almost didn’t have one of her homes!
At least her priorities were in order.

It's Not That Funny that her single from her 2004 album was called Friend, because she doesn't really know what that is.
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At least her priorities were in order.

It's Not That Funny that her single from her 2004 album was called Friend, because she doesn't really know what that is.
Tell Me Lies, tell me lots of them.
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