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Old 10-21-2020, 11:06 AM
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As much as Lindsey is the genius behind FM's success, he was never meant for mass appeal, solo. Listen to Law and Order, and tell me he's not quirky AF. Quirky AF doesn't work for mass appeal, unless you're Weird Al.
Okay but even then I can't imagine going to see Weird Al at the Garden.

Totally agree about Lindsey. If he wanted to, he could have had more mass appeal. The man who wrote Go Your Own Way could have been more hit focused in his solo career for sure, if he wanted to. I don't think he ever really cared. Maybe with OOTC he tried to have more (even that one is debatable on the whole) but by that point he was already over 40 and the ship had sailed.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:42 AM
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Okay but even then I can't imagine going to see Weird Al at the Garden.

Totally agree about Lindsey. If he wanted to, he could have had more mass appeal. The man who wrote Go Your Own Way could have been more hit focused in his solo career for sure, if he wanted to. I don't think he ever really cared. Maybe with OOTC he tried to have more (even that one is debatable on the whole) but by that point he was already over 40 and the ship had sailed.
I agree moneywise and stardom. SN wins hands down. I do not even hate the messy lyrical turd of a new song she just put out.

But as a human being her actions followed by dishonesty have disgusted me. I'll take the other four playing a 2000-6000 seat arena any day of the week. BuckVie was truly a wonderful intimate experience for me. Christine coming back was to a record was such a beautiful surprise. I still listen to the album. It's a simple little gem. And then there was Mick's wonderful tribute to Peter Green concert. I loved that, too!

Musically, they don't need her. They don't even need her for money. The only thing they need her for is 20,000 seat filler. (ego) I'd also, argue she needs them or some other name to fill it. Money and ego can only go so far.
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Old 10-21-2020, 11:52 AM
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Musically, they don't need her. They don't even need her for money. The only thing they need her for is 20,000 seat filler. (ego) I'd also, argue she needs them or some other name to fill it. Money and ego can only go so far.
They bring up her induction into the Hall. But actually, what was she inducted for? What contributions to Rock or the struggle of equality for women artists did Stevie make or transcend as a solo artist before Tina, Diana, Cher, Pat Benatar, Kate Bush, Bonnie Raitt, Chaka did?
The induction featured a lot of talk about Fleetwood Mac and didn't pin down the solo music's enrichment of Rock music.
She's close with Irving. Somehow Irving's getting inducted this year.
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Old 10-21-2020, 12:31 PM
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They bring up her induction into the Hall. But actually, what was she inducted for? What contributions to Rock or the struggle of equality for women artists did Stevie make or transcend as a solo artist before Tina, Diana, Cher, Pat Benatar, Kate Bush, Bonnie Raitt, Chaka did?
The induction featured a lot of talk about Fleetwood Mac and didn't pin down the solo music's enrichment of Rock music.
She's close with Irving. Somehow Irving's getting inducted this year.
Why isn’t Randy Bachman in the Hall? Between the Guess Who and BTO, he’s written some of the most legendary songs in rock’s history.

These Eyes
Undone
Laughing
No Time
American Woman
No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature
Takin’ Care of Business
Let It Ride
Roll On Down the Highway
You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet
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Old 10-21-2020, 01:10 PM
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Why isn’t Randy Bachman in the Hall? Between the Guess Who and BTO, he’s written some of the most legendary songs in rock’s history.

These Eyes
Undone
Laughing
No Time
American Woman
No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature
Takin’ Care of Business
Let It Ride
Roll On Down the Highway
You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet
Why aren't Culture Club and Cyndi Lauper in?

I think it was right for Madonna to be inducted in her first year of eligibility.
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Old 10-21-2020, 01:59 PM
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Lindsey brought Christine back to us. Not Stevie. And yet, who bragged about bringing Christine back with a spirit catcher, told her to get in shape, and then lectured her how hard it was to be on tour?
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Lindsey brought Christine back to us. Not Stevie. And yet, who bragged about bringing Christine back with a spirit catcher, told her to get in shape, and then lectured her how hard it was to be on tour?
Don't forget she also mimicked her English accent. The nerve!!!
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Why isn’t Randy Bachman in the Hall? Between the Guess Who and BTO, he’s written some of the most legendary songs in rock’s history.

These Eyes
Undone
Laughing
No Time
American Woman
No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature
Takin’ Care of Business
Let It Ride
Roll On Down the Highway
You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet
I didn’t even know that Randy Bachman was ever in the Guess Who. By the way, “These Eyes” famously features the Hohner Pianet N (Christine’s electric piano of choice in those years).
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I didn’t even know that Randy Bachman was ever in the Guess Who. By the way, “These Eyes” famously features the Hohner Pianet N (Christine’s electric piano of choice in those years).
I recognize it in the beginning. I really love that sound.
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Why isn’t Randy Bachman in the Hall? Between the Guess Who and BTO, he’s written some of the most legendary songs in rock’s history.

These Eyes
Undone
Laughing
No Time
American Woman
No Sugar Tonight/New Mother Nature
Takin’ Care of Business
Let It Ride
Roll On Down the Highway
You Ain’t Seen Nothing Yet
Recently heard Roll On Down The Highway, wow I love that song. Great pick me up.
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I agree moneywise and stardom. SN wins hands down. I do not even hate the messy lyrical turd of a new song she just put out.

But as a human being her actions followed by dishonesty have disgusted me. I'll take the other four playing a 2000-6000 seat arena any day of the week. BuckVie was truly a wonderful intimate experience for me. Christine coming back was to a record was such a beautiful surprise. I still listen to the album. It's a simple little gem. And then there was Mick's wonderful tribute to Peter Green concert. I loved that, too!

Musically, they don't need her. They don't even need her for money. The only thing they need her for is 20,000 seat filler. (ego) I'd also, argue she needs them or some other name to fill it. Money and ego can only go so far.
Agreed 100%. I saw the five of them together in a big arena in 2014. It was great. If she wanted nothing to do with BuckVie and wanted to be away from Lindsey, she should have quit and wished them well. I would have loved to have seen a much smaller Fleetwood Mac show in an intimate venue with the foursome and the backing band. I like Stevie's Mac songs but a Fleetwood Mac set with a big selection from the new album plus Chris and Lindsey's hits and some unearthed gems would have been very cool. It would have been different, smaller, and without the stank in the air of someone being fired.
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A new album and theater tour would be great for fans, I’d certainly be all over that, but the album wouldn’t be a blip on anyone’s radar outside of fans, especially without Stevie, and would be quickly forgotten. How would that help their legacy?

Mick, John, and Christine remember the days of 1970-1976, when even finishing a tour wasn’t guaranteed. They weren’t having commercial success while their contemporaries (Clapton, Winwood, Stewart, Deep Purple, etc.) were becoming legends. Hell, even Santana had a hit with a Fleetwood Mac song, but not Fleetwood Mac. And, I’m sure Mick and John remember the sting of having to tour with REO and Benatar when they were considered irrelevant washed up has beens while The Eagles, Page/Plant, and Pink Floyd packed arenas.

Mick, John, and Christine want Fleetwood Mac to go out as an arena rock band and all the trappings that go with it. They’ve earned that privilege.
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I agree moneywise and stardom. SN wins hands down. I do not even hate the messy lyrical turd of a new song she just put out.

But as a human being her actions followed by dishonesty have disgusted me. I'll take the other four playing a 2000-6000 seat arena any day of the week. BuckVie was truly a wonderful intimate experience for me. Christine coming back was to a record was such a beautiful surprise. I still listen to the album. It's a simple little gem. And then there was Mick's wonderful tribute to Peter Green concert. I loved that, too!

Musically, they don't need her. They don't even need her for money. The only thing they need her for is 20,000 seat filler. (ego) I'd also, argue she needs them or some other name to fill it. Money and ego can only go so far.
Yes! I attended the opening night for Buck/Mcvie and had front row in front of Chris. Before that I have seen her on the Dance but I was on the lawn so major different to be so close. To not only be so close but to get to hear 8 new songs and rarities was amazing (sorry Stevie too many new songs is NOT a bad thing) As far as the album, it did take me several plays to start to get it. There are so many intricate parts that it take several plays to hear. That's why I like it so much. If someone only listened to it a time or two I can see why they didn't care for it and so many people had attitude that Stevie wasn't on it so they couldn't be bothered. Lay Down For Free is my favorite Lindsey song and Love Is Here To Stay is really beautiful.

One thing that bothered me is most people on here butchered it. This is not a duet album, Stevie is not on it, only 10 songs, Stevie is not on it, the cover is bad, Stevie is not on it, too many effects and overdubs, Stevie is not on it, and many more complaints. Those same people are the ones that praise it today. It would be nice to be able to listen too something and have your own opinion and not be overwhelmed by so much negativity.

I do admit the cover is awful and could have been so much better.
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