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Old 10-16-2020, 08:43 PM
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No. But then nothing around here is gospel. A song with 2/3 of the band is close enough for me.
Perhaps you don't value or honor Mick and John. To consider Find Your Way "close to Mac" is disrespectful to those men because you have no previous recording of a new song with Stevie, Chris, Mike, Neil, Mick and John to base it off of. You have YouTube videos of the lineup doing songs that Mike and Neil did write or participate in the original recording.
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Perhaps you don't value or honor Mick and John. To consider Find Your Way "close to Mac" is disrespectful because you have no previous recording of a new song with Stevie, Chris, Mike, Neil, Mick and John to base it off of. You have YouTube videos of the lineup doing songs that Mike and Neil did write or participate in the original recording.
I mean to be fair Mick has no shame, he entertained replacing both John and Christine at different points in time. It’s not like they value one another AT ALL
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Old 10-16-2020, 08:55 PM
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Perhaps you don't value or honor Mick and John. To consider Find Your Way "close to Mac" is disrespectful to those men because you have no previous recording of a new song with Stevie, Chris, Mike, Neil, Mick and John to base it off of. You have YouTube videos of the lineup doing songs that Mike and Neil did write or participate in the original recording.
This could turn into a huge philosophical discussion as to what constitutes Fleetwood Mac and what does not.

Like, is “Hypnotized” from Live At The Roxy Fleetwood Mac? Mick and John play on it, Christine is singing backing vocals, and those four were a lineup of Fleetwood Mac.

What about Jeremy’s solo album where he was backed by Mick, John, and Danny and had a cameo from Peter?

What about Christine’s version of “When You Say” with John and Danny?

And, do Mick and John need to be on it to be Fleetwood Mac? Aren’t some of Lindsey’s songs on Tusk and TITN just Lindsey? What about Landslide (which was recorded when they were still Buckingham Nicks), Songbird, The World Keep On Turning? Are Revelation and Keep On Going, which feature Bob Welch on bass, Fleetwood Mac?
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This could turn into a huge philosophical discussion as to what constitutes Fleetwood Mac and what does not.

Like, is “Hypnotized” from Live At The Roxy Fleetwood Mac? Mick and John play on it, Christine is singing backing vocals, and those four were a lineup of Fleetwood Mac.

What about Jeremy’s solo album where he was backed by Mick, John, and Danny and had a cameo from Peter?

What about Christine’s version of “When You Say” with John and Danny?

And, do Mick and John need to be on it to be Fleetwood Mac? Aren’t some of Lindsey’s songs on Tusk and TITN just Lindsey? What about Landslide (which was recorded when they were still Buckingham Nicks), Songbird, The World Keep On Turning? Are Revelation and Keep On Going, which feature Bob Welch on bass, Fleetwood Mac?
Does this mean John’s solo album from the early 90s is actually a Fleetwood Mac album?
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This could turn into a huge philosophical discussion as to what constitutes Fleetwood Mac and what does not.

Like, is “Hypnotized” from Live At The Roxy Fleetwood Mac? Mick and John play on it, Christine is singing backing vocals, and those four were a lineup of Fleetwood Mac.

What about Jeremy’s solo album where he was backed by Mick, John, and Danny and had a cameo from Peter?

What about Christine’s version of “When You Say” with John and Danny?

And, do Mick and John need to be on it to be Fleetwood Mac? Aren’t some of Lindsey’s songs on Tusk and TITN just Lindsey? What about Landslide (which was recorded when they were still Buckingham Nicks), Songbird, The World Keep On Turning? Are Revelation and Keep On Going, which feature Bob Welch on bass, Fleetwood Mac?
So your opinion, is that Find Your Way Home is the Fleetwood Mac sound?
Did Mick, John, and Green create the FM sound?

You just replied to me that a "functioning band" recorded a song. Did a "functioning" Fleetwood Mac record Find Your Way? Or do you want to withdraw the statement you made?
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So your opinion, is that Find Your Way Home is the Fleetwood Mac sound?
I didn’t say or imply that it sounded like Fleetwood Mac, I pointed it out as an example of how Fleetwood Mac is more “functioning” since the change. Stevie can work with Neil in a way she couldn’t with Lindsey anymore. And, since 2/3 of the current lineup is on it, I specifically put it in an almost Mac category. If Mick and John and Christine on keyboards were added, it would absolutely be Fleetwood Mac. Honestly, it reminds me like something from SYW.

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Did Mick, John, and Green create the FM sound?
Definitely one era of the band’s sound. And, “Stop Messin’ Round” was the really the first moment the world heard what would become the defining quality of the band’s sound, namely the Fleetwood McVie Perfect groove.

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I didn’t say or imply that it sounded like Fleetwood Mac, I pointed it out as an example of how Fleetwood Mac is more “functioning” since the change. Stevie can work with Neil in a way she couldn’t with Lindsey anymore. And, since 2/3 of the current lineup is on it, I specifically put it in an almost Mac category. If Mick and John and Christine on keyboards were added, it would absolutely be Fleetwood Mac. Honestly, it reminds me like something from SYW.
You wrote that the new FM recorded a new song in replying to me. That's not true.
How can we be sure she can work in a way she couldn't with Lindsey? It's one song. She likely wasn't in the same room as Neil. She didn't have to write the song. The song was donated for charity. She didn't do an EP with Neil. To me, this was like a courtesy to do for a new co-worker.


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Definitely one era of the band’s sound. And, “Stop Messin’ Round” was the really the first moment the world heard what would become the defining quality of the band’s sound, namely the Fleetwood McVie Perfect groove.
Using reason, one would decide that this new FM's sound would have to be heard in a new song with all 6 members on it. "Find Your Way" is not the advent of the new FM sound.
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You wrote that the new FM recorded a new song in replying to me. That's not true.
Most of the band did, all of the current frontline. It was an example of the band being more functional than it had become by 2015.

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How can we be sure she can work in a way she couldn't with Lindsey? It's one song. She likely wasn't in the same room as Neil. She didn't have to write the song. The song was donated for charity. She didn't do an EP with Neil. To me, this was like a courtesy to do for a new co-worker.
How can we be sure she can work in a way she couldn't with Lindsey? The simple fact she was able to do something as a courtesy. She wouldn’t have considered it with Lindsey.

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Using reason, one would decide that this new FM's sound would have to be heard in a new song with all 6 members on it. "Find Your Way" is not the advent of the new FM sound.
Again, I didn’t hold it up as an example of the new Fleetwood Mac sound.
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Old 10-16-2020, 10:25 PM
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How can we be sure she can work in a way she couldn't with Lindsey? The simple fact she was able to do something as a courtesy. She wouldn’t have considered it with Lindsey.
You're leaving out that it was to shelter the homeless in NZ. Don't you think it would've been evil not to email Neil her vocals?

From 2014 on, she sang a song for Don's cd, for Charles Kelley, for Lana Del Ray, and Leann Rimes.
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Most of the band did, all of the current frontline. It was an example of the band being more functional than it had become by 2015.
Have you already forgotten the months of work that John, Mick, Chris, and Lindsey did in 2017, which culminated in an actual “feature-length” album — followed by a tour? That year — for everyone except Stevie — was the acme of a functional Fleetwood Mac.

Honestly, trying to paint Lindsey as the cause of some sort of long-term stasis in that band is just silly. Maybe back in 1984–87, but not at all since he rejoined officially in 1997.
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