Mick finally answers Lindsey's condolence call after Peter Green died

[KenshiMaster16]

Originally Posted by elle

Fleetwood Mac legacy was sealed long time ago. they are that band with 3 completely different songwriters who wrote some incredible songs and sang some incredible harmonies, while all interchangeably breaking up and sleeping with each and fighting and loving and hating each other while doing mountains of drugs... and keep selling bazillion copies of that Rumours album where each song is a hit.

and then they milked all that into oblivion by doing greatest hits reunion tours forever-more. how would yet another reunion tour change anything in that legacy?

They are now a viral trending, Billboard Top 40 charting band again. Mick would be insane if he isn't sitting on his little island with dollar signs in his eyes thinking, "Stevie hates backlash and her solo career has slowed, Lindsey and I are on speaking terms, he is readying a solo album, Chris and John are still around... perhaps we politely retire this era and usher in a grand farewell tour. That'll bring in lots of money. Album. Live show. Tons of press. Tons and tons of money."

It's like the lead up from '92 to '97 all over again. I can see it clear as day. As much as I would hate to gag my way through the song and dance lovefest show again, the general public will eat it up - as will the new generation that have found them.

All thats left is the revelation that someone is working in a studio with Lindsey on something.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

They are now a viral trending, Billboard Top 40 charting band again. Mick would be insane if he isn't sitting on his little island with dollar signs in his eyes thinking, "Stevie hates backlash and her solo career has slowed, Lindsey and I are on speaking terms, he is readying a solo album, Chris and John are still around... perhaps we politely retire this era and usher in a grand farewell tour. That'll bring in lots of money. Album. Live show. Tons of press. Tons and tons of money."

It's like the lead up from '92 to '97 all over again. I can see it clear as day. As much as I would hate to gag my way through the song and dance lovefest show again, the general public will eat it up - as will the new generation that have found them.

All thats left is the revelation that someone is working in a studio with Lindsey on something.

Yeah but Stevie is the stopper. She is working on a solo album and I doubt she is going to give it up for Fleetwood Mac. She has no time left. Plus she has to fit that Rhiannon project in.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Yeah but Stevie is the stopper. She is working on a solo album and I doubt she is going to give it up for Fleetwood Mac. She has no time left. Plus she has to fit that Rhiannon project in.

Why wouldn't she have time left I'd bet she will be the last one standing of the Rumours five.

[Jondalar]

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Why wouldn't she have time left I'd bet she will be the last one standing of the Rumours five.

From things she has said, she sees herself retiring at age 80. She is 72.

[sleepless child]

This shows what kind of person Lindsey is. He really cares about these people. Why I don't know. They are back stabbing, self -serving, lying and cowardly people. They threw Lindsey under the bus. John says nothing even though the band bears his name. Christine didn't back Lindsey even though she wanted too. Don't get me started on Mick and Stevie, who orchestrated this whole thing. And now Stevie is so sad and Mick is glad that he and Lindsey are friends again. Puke emoji! Lindsey should never go back. Except for one concert where he makes a big pile of money for retirement. Use them like he was used. I can't believe this is what has become of this band that I have loved since 1975.

[jbrownsjr]

Mick is starting to milk the BIG 5 machine. I may be wrong, but history has taught me well.

[louielouie2000]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Mick is starting to milk the BIG 5 machine. I may be wrong, but history has taught me well.

Indeed. Stevie recently admitting to reaching out to Lindsey after his heart attack, and seeing vitriolic posts online about her firing Lindsey were the opening salvo. This is Stevie showing vulnerability, which she just doesn’t do. When Stevie doesn’t want to be on the record regarding a specific topic, she makes damn sure her interviewers don’t bring it up. Her starting to discuss Lindsey and the true nature of his firing etc is absolutely deliberate.

Mick saw the door was cracked, so he nudged it open a little further. He’s trying to walk the line yet be noncommittal for fear of Stevie’s wrath, but he’s nudging the line all the same.

While I think there is zero hope for another Mac studio album, I think the possibility of some sort of farewell reunion is crossing all their minds. Stevie, Mick, and Lindsey all have this need to be loved by the fans and press. They are all in legacy mode, too. They may not want to all be together, but they understand they pretty much have to undo all of this crap. At this point it would make for a monumental happily ever after... or if left to stand would tarnish their 50 year careers and future legacies. They know what they’ve gotta do. And it’s clear to me these processes are most certainly being set into motion behind the scenes.

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by louielouie2000

Indeed. Stevie recently admitting to reaching out to Lindsey after his heart attack, and seeing vitriolic posts online about her firing Lindsey were the opening salvo. This is Stevie showing vulnerability, which she just doesn’t do. When Stevie doesn’t want to be on the record regarding a specific topic, she makes damn sure her interviewers don’t bring it up. Her starting to discuss Lindsey and the true nature of his firing etc is absolutely deliberate.

Mick saw the door was cracked, so he nudged it open a little further. He’s trying to walk the line yet be noncommittal for fear of Stevie’s wrath, but he’s nudging the line all the same.

While I think there is zero hope for another Mac studio album, I think the possibility of some sort of farewell reunion is crossing all their minds. Stevie, Mick, and Lindsey all have this need to be loved by the fans and press. They are all in legacy mode, too. They may not want to all be together, but they understand they pretty much have to undo all of this crap. At this point it would make for a monumental happily ever after... or if left to stand would tarnish their 50 year careers and future legacies. They know what they’ve gotta do. And it’s clear to me these processes are most certainly being set into motion behind the scenes.

I agree with this. It's almost too planned. This was all very orchestrated. I just hope if something does happen to get this group together again, LB releases his solo album first.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

From things she has said, she sees herself retiring at age 80. She is 72.

9 years ago when promoting In Your Dreams she said she would probably retire at 72 at other times she has predicted that she would still be performing in a ribbon festooned wheelchair ..so

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Yeah but Stevie is the stopper. She is working on a solo album and I doubt she is going to give it up for Fleetwood Mac. She has no time left. Plus she has to fit that Rhiannon project in.

Indeed.

2020 was a wash for touring etc. 2021 remains to be seen.

She's got her 24k film coming out, which won't likely be playing in theaters, and if it is, won't do huge business to start with and then with covid even less.

Her song won't make a dent, but I think right now she's more about "staying relevant" and putting something out.

The Rhiannon project I will believe when I see it. I and others have been hearing about this project since the 1970s. To put it in a different perspective, imagine if we were sitting here and it was 1920 (instead of 2020) and we were saying "She's been talking about that project since the 1870s".
TWENTY years back in our current century, and then another THIRTY years back into the previous century.

I admit I would see it, whatever it is, but....someone else better be the engine behind getting it done or else ....

I think she defines her "youthful" years as the years she can still put on the extensions/a wig and make up and not look like Bette Davis in her final years. Vanity is a thing with her and she wants to be remembered for how she LOOKED not how she LOOKS if you get what I mean.

Does anyone think even *she* can weather another Mac tour?? I don't. If the money was right however you know she'd do it. Didn't they all, including Mick, say that this last tour would be their last major tour??

I hope LB doesn't go back....but, I could see all 5 caving for something recorded. Either a live in a studio thing like The Dance, or a big show at an arena that gets filmed as the capstone. I'm getting the vibe from LB that somehow he's not entirely shut off the such an idea.....

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I hope LB doesn't go back....but, I could see all 5 caving for something recorded. Either a live in a studio thing like The Dance, or a big show at an arena that gets filmed as the capstone. I'm getting the vibe from LB that somehow he's not entirely shut off the such an idea.....

I think LB wants back. He is not done with them like some of his fans are. It’s disheartening to me. I liked the guy from 1987. I liked it when he was more wanted than wanting.

[BombaySapphire3]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I think LB wants back. He is not done with them like some of his fans are. It’s disheartening to me. I liked the guy from 1987. I liked it when he was more wanted than wanting.

Back for what One last big cash grab "farewell" tour with the Rumours five. To do another Fleetwood Mac album when we know that Stevie won't participate even though she wants to make another solo album and just put out a dud new song? It would be a disappointment if he did want to rejoin this unsavory bunch.

[elle]

Originally Posted by michelej1

I think LB wants back. He is not done with them like some of his fans are. It’s disheartening to me. I liked the guy from 1987. I liked it when he was more wanted than wanting.

i feel the same as you. i know he wants the reconciliation on a private level and i am ecstatic for him that seems to be happening - somewhat.

but Fleetwood Mac events? one-off like the dance was? sure. tours or anything time consuming? please no.

please Lindsey no. you are flushing your own legacy down the toilet if you do that. and you were just starting to get your name more known. and some street cred that participating on The Killers / Caution gave you. don't throw it all away.

Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3

Back for what One last big cash grab "farewell" tour with the Rumours five. To do another Fleetwood Mac album when we know that Stevie won't participate even though she wants to make another solo album and just put out a dud new song? It would be a disappointment if he did want to rejoin this unsavory bunch.

yup.

there will be no Mac album. definitely not with Lindsey. and another cash grab tour would diminish, not build their legacy. unless Stevie actually exits Fleetwood Mac. which she has no need doing. the other 3 would be more than happy to work and push an album out with Lindsey then. but it should be under FM name, not like last time.

now, again, one-off event or two? sure.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by elle

please Lindsey no. you are flushing your own legacy down the toilet if you do that. and you were just starting to get your name more known. and some street cred that participating on The Killers / Caution gave you. don't throw it all away.

The thing is, Lindsey would not see it as a betrayal of his own legacy. I suspect that he still believes he needs the big machine to distribute the small machine creations to the most people. We live in a DIY world and I am sure that Lindsey’s children know it, but I don’t think he does. He doesn’t know he can get exposure without FM. Even if he was beginning to catch on to this before, the pandemic has changed that. It has limited his options, because he cannot tour like he wanted.

Now, I realize that the success of the cranberry juice fellow should tell Lindsey that anybody can get millions of ears, under the right circumstances. They don’t need a big name band. He doesn’t need one and should just be happy to still have artistry to share, no matter how small his audience. I think he learned this overtime, but mortality may have caused him to go backwards.

If he did reunite, it would not be to abandon his new material. It would be to help it, the surest way he thinks he knows how.

[Villavic]

Originally Posted by Jondalar

Yeah but Stevie is the stopper. She is working on a solo album and I doubt she is going to give it up for Fleetwood Mac. She has no time left. Plus she has to fit that Rhiannon project in.

So what? Do we really want another (Rumours lineup) Fleetwood Mac album?
I think too much blood has already fallen into the river. And frankly I got tired of the "lovingest/fightingest band" soap opera. Plus, their voices are not good anymore. And what for? To read and get upset about what Stevie said, to criticize Mick and his hunger for money? I'm not interested at all.

Nowadays I just enjoy again the old material but I'm not interested in waiting or expecting a new impossible album, or waiting for the 5 to agree being together at the studio, which could happen in 2054.