Article: Fleetwood Mac's Stevie Nicks sent a letter to Lindsey.

[johnnystorms]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Ok let me put my trained statement analysis to work:

A few things really floored me. First was her acknowledging fan pushback on her RBG tribute to bring up Lindsey. Used it as if she was the victim.

Notice how she kept saying this was long over due and it was going on for a very long time however she NEVER explains what it was. What exactly has Lindsey been doing to you for so many years that you finally had a breaking point? Tell us. If it was something so bad, the readers would understand. She has never said why. Mick only hinted that Stevie thought Lindsey was mocking her at the awards ceremony.

Spill the beans if you were treated so bad. Good grief you make tens of millions of dollars on tour with the Mac, take separate limos to shows, stay in different hotel rooms and barely see Lindsey.

We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by johnnystorms

We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018

Yup. She then, at practically 70 years of age, finally said enough is enough. As was her right.

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by johnnystorms

We all saw it in the SYW doc. And the tour requiring the cardigan... and LB passive aggresive treatment.. it was magnanimous of her NOT to bring those things up. He fought her mixer suggestion, fought her song lyrics, and fought her wardrobe choices. Yet she was the biggest draw of the band. Good for her asserting herself in 2018

THOSE are the reasons??!!

If those are the reasons I would be firing people all day.

The way you assert yourself—which I acknowledge is HARD—is to say “No” and continue on with your job. She already had the power and leverage. It’s not Lindsey’s fault she didn’t know that. So while it was her right to do, it was not right to do—for Lindsey or for her.

[bombaysaffires]

thanks for posting the full article, Michele. For whatever reason, I was able to access it without the paywall coming up through their Twitter link. But it's great to have these articles embedded here for archival purposes in case the links get removed.

Stevie's a big girl. She knows how to push back and say no to LB. Witness the infamous Bob Dylan conversation. It is beyond belief that she would wear a cardigan onstage because he "insisted" on it. Please.

Also, her assertion that she can still write romantic songs.... that's a very clever and subtle way to push back on the obvious fact that she isn't writing any songs and finds it too hard. She herself (in typical Stevie revisionist history) said just a few months back that she was quarantining in her big house with a bunch of her god daughters and that they were saying to her "ooh let's use this time to record a bunch of songs" and her response was that that was easy for people to say because THEY didn't have to write the songs, SHE did and she hasn't been able to write. (She just left out that she hasn't written for a long time, not just during covid.)

Funny she now wants to do a solo record. Though without a new product or tour to plug she can't do the big publicity pushes and get herself all over the media. And without any new FM albums or tours in the offing, she's either got to crank out a solo project or fade into the background. Remember a few years ago when that was her dream.... she got her trailer in Malibu to retreat to and was so distressed because she'd been so busy with work commitments that she hadn't had any time to furnish or decorate it? All the years whining about wanting to retreat to a castle on a cliff overlooking the ocean......blah blah blah. She's got that fabulous penthouse hanging over the beach and she still isn't happy. her career really is the only thing she's got. It's getting truly rather sad.

[bombaysaffires]

Her quote about CSN:

"I've had my problems with FM. But when he (Crosby) said that he never sees them or talks to them? That's hard for me, because I just want it to not be that way. I want him to be friends with those people and I want those people to forgive him for whatever it is that they're angry with him for. I want them to get back together and put their ear monitors in and go out and sing. I just wish that they could put that behind them somehow and understand what it would mean to all of us. It would mean everything to me to be able to hear them sing. To do one more, like, small, cool, acoustic tour where they sang all those songs that we all love so much. I feel like it's not gonna happen, and I know that he's not in the best of health. And so that is even scarier. Because you don't want them to waste time. I want them all to forgive each other. And if they're so made at him, I want them to forgive him. Because they went through so much together. Just listening to him talk about how he loved many women and he wasn't a very good boyfriend and he drug a lot of people down-- it's like, you know, that was then, and **** happens. You just want to be able to go 'we were one of the greatest trios to ever walk the face of this earth. Ever.' And probably inspired more people in the music business than anybody".

so much to unravel in this. Does she ever actually LISTEN to what she says?
It's so typical Stevie-- bad behavior should be ignored, there's nothing she does that should be unforgiven, but you know, if she's mad at someone else that's different. I'd argue the Beatles inspired far more people in the music biz than anyone, and maybe Elvis.
Call me when you've taken your own advice, sister, and made amends to FM and thought about THOSE fans. It would mean everything to hear the 3 singers in FM sing together again; it would slay me to hear Buckingham Nicks sing Frozen Love just once live. SHE ruined that dream; she pooped on FM fans, so remember that when you want CSN to do what YOU can't seem to do.
FM ain't getting any younger; LB had a frigging heart attack; they're all pushing 80. Look in the mirror mirror, street angel.

[FuzzyPlum]

She's chicken oriental

[elle]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Her quote about CSN:

"I've had my problems with FM. But when he (Crosby) said that he never sees them or talks to them? That's hard for me, because I just want it to not be that way. I want him to be friends with those people and I want those people to forgive him for whatever it is that they're angry with him for. I want them to get back together and put their ear monitors in and go out and sing. I just wish that they could put that behind them somehow and understand what it would mean to all of us. It would mean everything to me to be able to hear them sing. To do one more, like, small, cool, acoustic tour where they sang all those songs that we all love so much. I feel like it's not gonna happen, and I know that he's not in the best of health. And so that is even scarier. Because you don't want them to waste time. I want them all to forgive each other. And if they're so made at him, I want them to forgive him. Because they went through so much together. Just listening to him talk about how he loved many women and he wasn't a very good boyfriend and he drug a lot of people down-- it's like, you know, that was then, and **** happens. You just want to be able to go 'we were one of the greatest trios to ever walk the face of this earth. Ever.' And probably inspired more people in the music business than anybody".


Call me when you've taken your own advice, sister, and made amends to FM and thought about THOSE fans.

this quote is just so... weird? is she really that oblivious? or she knows exactly what she is doing?

she answered her own question irom this same interview here, about why are Fleetwood Mac fans on her social media so mad about her breaking up the band, and never being able to have the Classic Mac together again.

and then - the person who is wronged and the rest of the band doesn't want to talk to should somehow try to approach them? not the people who ghosted and wronged that person, people who do wrong don't owe any apologies? that's some warped logic right there.

then again looking at history, it's pretty consistent:

• she dumps the guy and writes songs making it look like he dumped her;
• she gets the guy fired and talks like he somehow fired himself and she was begging him to stay so now she's oh so sad. (and of course she got him fired because she was oh so sad every time she would see him )

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by elle

this quote is just so... weird? is she really that oblivious? or she knows exactly what she is doing?

she answered her own question irom this same interview here, about why are Fleetwood Mac fans on her social media so mad about her breaking up the band, and never being able to have the Classic Mac together again.

and then - the person who is wronged and the rest of the band doesn't want to talk to should somehow try to approach them? not the people who ghosted and wronged that person, people who do wrong don't owe any apologies? that's some warped logic right there.

then again looking at history, it's pretty consistent:

• she dumps the guy and writes songs making it look like he dumped her;
• she gets the guy fired and talks like he somehow fired himself and she was begging him to stay so now she's oh so sad. (and of course she got him fired because she was oh so sad every time she would see him )

The amount of untruth that comes out of her mouth is staggering. It's almost as if everything she says is a lie.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

The amount of untruth that comes out of her mouth is staggering. It's almost as if everything she says is a lie.

It's not a lie, if you believe it, Jerry.
-$tevie Costanza

[The Catdancer]

“I stayed with him from 1968 until that night."

WTH does this even mean?? They broke up in 1976 (she broke up with him). I know they've had "encounters" over the years but as far as I know the guy has been very happily married with children. As he himself said in an interview he married his soul mate. Maybe she stayed with him in her mind but not in Lindsey's mind; he was too busy with his soul mate.

[BigAl84]

I find it even more interesting that the CSN bit conveniently didn't make it into the published interview.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by BigAl84

I find it even more interesting that the CSN bit conveniently didn't make it into the published interview.

someone on her team was paying attention, even if she wasn't

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Funny she now wants to do a solo record. Though without a new product or tour to plug she can't do the big publicity pushes and get herself all over the media. And without any new FM albums or tours in the offing, she's either got to crank out a solo project or fade into the background. Remember a few years ago when that was her dream.... she got her trailer in Malibu to retreat to and was so distressed because she'd been so busy with work commitments that she hadn't had any time to furnish or decorate it? All the years whining about wanting to retreat to a castle on a cliff overlooking the ocean......blah blah blah. She's got that fabulous penthouse hanging over the beach and she still isn't happy. her career really is the only thing she's got. It's getting truly rather sad.

Her career doesn't seem to be enough for her at this age. Or her fans. Or her packed arenas. Or her ego.
I wish I could feel some kind of sympathy for her. Not that she cared anyway, but she honestly doesn't inspire any positive feeling in me. She did enough damage. She should apologize or just shut up.

[UnwindedDreams]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

THOSE are the reasons??!!

If those are the reasons I would be firing people all day.

The way you assert yourself—which I acknowledge is HARD—is to say “No” and continue on with your job. She already had the power and leverage. It’s not Lindsey’s fault she didn’t know that. So while it was her right to do, it was not right to do—for Lindsey or for her.

The cardigan thing was about rebranding the band. Going modern rather than baroque and gaudy. Ultimately Stevie brought out the shiny costumes and stuff which I love. I especially loved the coat she wore for Gypsy in 03 and the big red Sara kimono.

I mean it's not like Lindsey put a gun to her head about the clothes. She coulda said go frig yourself or told Mick about it.