Stevie at RHOF "MY band that is still together."

[Feather Blade]

It may not be in the configuration some here might wish for, but the band IS still together. Still active, still touring, still hopefully recording someday, still in existence. As far as "my band" goes, one doesn't assume that everytime you hear someone say "my church", "my office", "my school"; that the person literally owns those things. Goodness, give the search for evil intent in every comment a rest.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Feather Blade

It may not be in the configuration some here might wish for, but the band IS still together. Still active, still touring, still hopefully recording someday, still in existence. As far as "my band" goes, one doesn't assume that everytime you hear someone say "my church", "my office", "my school"; that the person literally owns those things. Goodness, give the search for evil intent in every comment a rest.

Well said, Feather Blade. That was how I took it, too. Freud would have a field day on this forum, the way every remark or comment is analyzed by some people just looking for a nasty intent. Glad to see that none of the numerous articles mentioned it, because they knew it was much ado about nothing.

Reminds me of when Blondie was inducted, and one of the former members asked Debbie Harry (during his speech) if he could join the band when they performed, and Debbie said something like "my band has already rehearsed" and he had a hissy fit and responded "Oh, it's your band now?"

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by Feather Blade

It may not be in the configuration some here might wish for, but the band IS still together. Still active, still touring, still hopefully recording someday, still in existence. As far as "my band" goes, one doesn't assume that everytime you hear someone say "my church", "my office", "my school"; that the person literally owns those things. Goodness, give the search for evil intent in every comment a rest.

Well, she fired Lindsey for smirking, so I guess we’re learning from the best.

[Street_Dreamer]

I've never heard Lindsey refer to Fleetwood Mac as being "his band". I don't remember anyone else in the group, even Mick and John refer to Fleetwood Mac as being their band.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer

I've never heard Lindsey refer to Fleetwood Mac as being "his band".

“I will stand with my band
Stand with my band”

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

“I will stand with my band
Stand with my band”

Notice that no one who had a hissy fit about Stevie saying "my band" will reply to your example of Lindsey saying the same thing.

What a twat biscuit, huh?

[aleuzzi]

The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

2. Waddy Watchell isn't mentioned at all.

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

4. Sandy Stewart is not mentioned.

5. Mike Campbell is not mentioned.

6. Rick Knowels (sp?) is not mentioned.

7. In terms of producers, only Jimmy Iovine is mentioned. No mention of, say, Dave Stuart.

8. Rulebook: sleep with men who will take you places.

……………..

I feel everyone of Stevie's albums has value so I was also disappointed to see that only songs from her first two albums were performed.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

2. Waddy Watchell isn't mentioned at all.

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

4. Sandy Stewart is not mentioned.

5. Mike Campbell is not mentioned.

6. Rick Knowels (sp?) is not mentioned.

7. In terms of producers, only Jimmy Iovine is mentioned. No mention of, say, Dave Stuart.

8. Rulebook: sleep with men who will take you places.

……………..

I feel everyone of Stevie's albums has value so I was also disappointed to see that only songs from her first two albums were performed.

I guess the fans weren't mentioned, either. What a surprise.

[David]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

Hi, Tony. Yes, I think they've all done that in various contexts at one time or another. In fact, it reminded me of Stevie's radio interview with Jim Ladd in 1979 where she addresses this "my band" stuff directly.

https://youtu.be/VLpSBzTf3Mw?t=325

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

2. Waddy Watchell isn't mentioned at all.

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

4. Sandy Stewart is not mentioned.

5. Mike Campbell is not mentioned.

6. Rick Knowels (sp?) is not mentioned.

7. In terms of producers, only Jimmy Iovine is mentioned. No mention of, say, Dave Stuart.

8. Rulebook: sleep with men who will take you places.

All good points. But I wouldn't have expected her necessarily to mention Sandy, Campbell, Rick, Dave Stewart, or any of her producers besides the guys who totally got her started: Danny and Paul, who formed Modern primarily to get Stevie started, and Jimmy, who wasn't only her first solo producer but her career sine qua non. The other guys, like Waddy, played major roles but it's really Danny, Paul, and Jimmy who created "Stevie Nicks" the solo act. They were the project managers when the project was launched. I suppose she could have rambled off a list at the end of her speech of a bunch of these other guys (and of course women like Sheryl, without whom there'd probably not be a Shangri La album and tour). But she yacked ad hoc for so long that there just didn't seem to be an opportunity.

I thought her anecdotal "speech" was everything others have said: airheaded and incoherent and fun. (In fact, as is typical for me these days, I like hearing her talk a lot more than I like hearing her sing.) But I don't think it was even her best (or near her best) rambling-style speech. While she's speaking, she seems to vaguely recall having mentioned many of these stories before and so she ellides them almost subconsciously until they make no sense if you aren't already aware of what she's referring to. I would imagine that a huge portion of that audience (which was there to see the Cure and Def Leppard and Roxy Music) was completely lost.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

The speech was entertaining in the way it was expected to be entertaining--a rambling mess of improvised stuff. I bear no ill will on her honor, nor on her calling FM "her band" (they've all done that).

But I DID have some problems with the speech:

1. Lindsey is only mentioned in a passive-aggressively demeaning way: the pot smoking boyfriend who stayed home and worked on music while she waited on tables. (And in Harry's intro, his tenure as Fritz's bassist is mentioned but not his exceptional guitar abilities that developed post-Fritz.)

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

Frankly, I was thrilled she even acknowledged Lindsey at all, even if it was just in passing. I didn't think her mention of Lindsey was passive aggressive, maybe dismissive is the more appropriate term. But I had no problem with Harry Styles or his speech, including his mention of Lindsey. Steve's induction was not the place where anyone was going to bring up Lindsey's incredible guitar prowess. And I don't recall Stevie saying in her speech Lindsey stayed home smoking pot, but in all fairness I was bored by her speech and may have missed it. If she did say that in her speech, that would be a more appropriate example of passive aggressive.

I really agree with #3. Saying 'girl' instead of 'woman' irritated me, plus the context in which she said it.

[michelej1]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

3. For a woman who has rightfully made a lot of noise about her being the first woman to be inducted twice, I bristled at the end of her speech when she spoke of her woman manager and how hard it is for her to take direction from anyone, "especially another girl."

Yes, that was a problem. Although Stevie has always been an old-fashioned sexist. It’s her generation, I suppose.

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by bwboy

Notice that no one who had a hissy fit about Stevie saying "my band" will reply to your example of Lindsey saying the same thing.

What a twat biscuit, huh?

I actually came in to drop those lyrics myself.

And I among those repulsed by her use of the phrase.

Lindsey's point is that he will do whatever it takes to keep the band, the fireflies, together. (That's the SENTIMENT of the song.)

When she refers to it as "MY band" in the context of all that has happened, it does it indeed sound like a coup. Because! It is no longer "her band" as we knew it (the 5); it's now quite literally "HER band".

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

“I will stand with my band
Stand with my band”

every time i think of those lyrics, it just makes me so sad for him. he loved this band so much. he was so proud of it. it was his band.

now it's hers.

now she gloats. her band is now complete.


instead of moving on after winning, she is still stuck on sticking it to him. he was just some bassist in Fritz, right? (apparently his singing in that band never happened! remember when Xavier or somebody said they got Stevie in as a singer but she didn't have the range to sing half of their songs so Lindsey had to sing them?). lucky for him Stevie got him outta Fritz to start Buckingham Nicks.

loved the huge cheers from the audience when Harry mentioned Lindsey Buckingham!

ah and the cleaning lady vs pothead story keeps getting more and more extreme. now it became - lucky for Lindsey, Richard & co, at least they were working on the music so she couldn't charge them for cleaning her own house. and she couldn't be bothered by actually working on music - you know, like talking about bars? how stupid and boring! when there are bars outside she could go to and hang out with people!

looks like Harry being there as an inroad to a whole another huge audience quickly backfired by the NSYNC reference.

[MissJanet]

Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer

I've never heard Lindsey refer to Fleetwood Mac as being "his band". I don't remember anyone else in the group, even Mick and John refer to Fleetwood Mac as being their band.

Mick does it in all his books, though.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Feather Blade

It may not be in the configuration some here might wish for, but the band IS still together. Still active, still touring, still hopefully recording someday, still in existence. As far as "my band" goes, one doesn't assume that everytime you hear someone say "my church", "my office", "my school"; that the person literally owns those things. Goodness, give the search for evil intent in every comment a rest.

She is a delusional IDIOT. WHO ELSE could disrespect the person inducting them so? Only a f**king IDIOT, could make that mistake.


The most AMAZING thing in her career is how she managed to do ANYTHING. What a twat biscuit!