The End of the Road? My Journey with Fleetwood Mac

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by jeets2000

lol, let me rebut your anecdote with a completely arbitrary one of my own! This is fun.

Except that’s been pretty consistent in videos and reviews throughout the tour.

[jeets2000]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Except that’s been pretty consistent in videos and reviews throughout the tour.

Sorry, but waving a phone at a concert during a song that's been on the radio for 30+ years is not evidence that everyone doing so believes the same thing or is doing it for the same reasons. That's... preposterous? Surely you see this, right?

[bombaysaffires]

arbitrary and anecdotal don't mean that something didn't happen or even that it didn't happen a lot.

arbitrary means, and was used here to mean, random and unrelated to the topic at hand.


ar·bi·trar·y
/ˈärbəˌtrerē/
adjective
based on random choice or personal whim, rather than any reason or system.
"his mealtimes were entirely arbitrary"
synonyms: capricious, whimsical, random, chance, erratic, unpredictable, inconsistent, wild, hit-or-miss, haphazard, casual

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by jeets2000

Sorry, but waving a phone at a concert during a song that's been on the radio for 30+ years is not evidence that everyone doing so believes the same thing or is doing it for the same reasons. That's... preposterous? Surely you see this, right?

I can already hear those comments during the song.... “wow, I didn’t know it was a FM song!”

It’s a classic song and a great CH song. Everybody loves the song. That doesn’t mean people are loving that Lindsey was fired or that they giving their thumbs up to the band for what they did.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I can already hear those comments during the song.... “wow, I didn’t know it was a FM song!”

It’s a classic song and a great CH song. Everybody loves the song. That doesn’t mean people are loving that Lindsey was fired or that they giving their thumbs up to the band for what they did.

they are likely mostly just indifferent to the firing and what the band did. That would not mean they love that Lindsey was fired or give thumbs up to the firing.

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by mitzo

they are likely mostly just indifferent to the firing and what the band did. That would not mean they love that Lindsey was fired or give thumbs up to the firing.

Wow, I don't know how I missed this. Mitzo, this describes my feelings pretty much to a T. Well, except for the indifference part. When I first heard the news, I was initially shocked, but quickly accepted it. I mean, it's Fleetwood Mac. And when I heard about Mike and Neil, I really wasn't sure what to think. But after seeing videos posted here by Sugar Mouse, I was intrigued by what they could bring to FM, especially Neil. In no way was I happy Lindsey was fired, but I didn't hate FM, either. I was a fan when Lindsey left in 1987 and I was a fan when he left in 2018.

If people think loving FM now, or seeing them live, or buying a FM record, is a direct slam on Lindsey, I really don't think, for a majority of people, that that's the case. Some people, maybe, but very few.

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by button-lip

I can already hear those comments during the song.... “wow, I didn’t know it was a FM song!”

It’s a classic song and a great CH song. Everybody loves the song. That doesn’t mean people are loving that Lindsey was fired or that they giving their thumbs up to the band for what they did.

It is in my top 3 worst 80s songs

[SteveMacD]

Sorry, but the suggestion that the band somehow fraudulently hid Lindsey’s absence or mislead audiences is laughable. They’ve made several television appearances including a couple of performances, they’ve done interviews in the press, they’ve gotten press coverage, they did that whole month of satellite radio, they have several group publicity photos, and even have Neil and Mike named on their tour poster. Furthermore, it was announced that Lindsey was out and Mike and Neil were in on April 9, but tickets didn’t even go on sale until April 25, the same day they did the CBS interview. It’s not like there wasn’t a lot of press about it at the time.

[iamnotafraid]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Sorry, but the suggestion that the band somehow fraudulently hid Lindsey’s absence or mislead audiences is laughable.

Not true Steve. When I heard radio advertisements for FM's
concert they were using Lindsey's voice. For me, that
would be a clear misrepresentation. And I'm talking about
his songs.

[mitzo]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

Not true Steve. When I heard radio advertisements for FM's
concert they were using Lindsey's voice. For me, that
would be a clear misrepresentation. And I'm talking about
his songs.

Radio ads in my area have clearly listed the names of the new lineup.

[TrueFaith77]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

Not true Steve. When I heard radio advertisements for FM's
concert they were using Lindsey's voice. For me, that
would be a clear misrepresentation. And I'm talking about
his songs.

And ticket websites frequently used old promo shoots which of course included Lindsey but no Mike or whatshisname

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77

And ticket websites frequently used old promo shoots which of course included Lindsey but no Mike or whatshisname

ITunes still have a Rumours 5 pic. Seriously....

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid

Not true Steve. When I heard radio advertisements for FM's
concert they were using Lindsey's voice. For me, that
would be a clear misrepresentation. And I'm talking about
his songs.

You mean Fleetwood Mac played a Fleetwood Mac song that Fleetwood Mac still plays during a Fleetwood Mac concert to promote a Fleetwood Mac tour???? Those bastards!!!

I remember in 1993 that “Don’t Stop” was used to promote Lindsey in the ads for the Tina Turner show.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

You mean Fleetwood Mac played a Fleetwood Mac song that Fleetwood Mac still plays during a Fleetwood Mac concert to promote a Fleetwood Mac tour???? Those bastards!!!

I remember in 1993 that “Don’t Stop” was used to promote Lindsey in the ads for the Tina Turner show.

They used Don't Stop and Little Little LIes for the BuckVie shows.

Then Too Far Gone, Red Sun and something else...

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

They used Don't Stop and Little Little LIes for the BuckVie shows.

Then Too Far Gone, Red Sun and something else...

But like Steve said, Don't Stop, a song written by Christine, was used to promote Lindsey's solo tour. Is that wrong, or is it wrong only when FM does the same thing?

BTW, I don't think any of them sit around deciding which songs should be played in advertisements. I think other folks do that.

If people really didn't know Lindsey had been fired and felt they were tricked into buying tickets to see them live, please give me their phone number or email address. I have some great new investment properties I'd like to tell them about. Seriously, in this day and age, with all the publicity his firing got, it's hard for me to believe people who were willing to pay $75 or more didn't know. You didn't have to be a stalker to know he had been fired and replaced, it was on Yahoo, msn, Good Morning America, USA Today, CNN, etc. If people didn't know, that's not the band's fault.