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Old 10-30-2018, 12:04 AM
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Loving these comments! Love Xtine McVie, too... though, like other have noted, sometimes she doesn't ever seem to go far enough. There's always a slight detachment with her. That being said...

Don't know how unpopular these would be, but:
—The pre-LBified "Hold Me" is incredible and would have been a hit with all that good-timey rockin' and SN/CMcV harmonizing. The released version obvs brings it into the present/future, but it was such a great 70s-jam it would have been nice to hear it that way from the start (anyone else suspect the LBification had a lot to do with pulling out SN's voice... FM never really let the two of them "join forces"...prob would have been too big an ego-blow to all three guys). The addition of the male voices doing the "come on and" is key, though.

—Love her Mirage songs! "Love In Store" is a favorite! "Only Over You" is also wonderful, as is "Wish You Were Here" (add "Hold Me" and they might be her strongest set of songs in one place, which is tough bc her Tango songs are also stellar)...

—"Wish You Were Here" definitely quote/cribs/calls back to "Silver Springs" in its opening piano part.

—Some of her Chicken Shack stuff is better than what she was doing with FM until SN/LB joined. Some of her early FM vocals are WEIRD. (Love "Blues is a Woman" and other Chicken Shack songs)


Maybe a little more unpopular:
—Sometimes I wonder what she'd be like if she did have more of a "spark"... she can be rote and kind of clinical, even when she sometime juxtaposes opposites in weird and interesting ways (how "Don't Stop" can be a very positive message and at the same time cynical, "if you life was bad to you/just think what TOMORROW WILL DO)"... Like how she said once that if she didn't write it in 30 minutes she'd give up and move on. Imagine how awesome she'd be if she worked a little harder LOL.

AND THE REAL UNPOPULAR OPINION:
—I don't think this new drama is entirely SN/Mick F at all. CMcV has SOMETHING to do with this, beyond being a member of FM.

Surely all this hand/face action from the CBS interview isn't because she's mad about LB being "fired"...https://ibb.co/ek6bXf
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Old 10-30-2018, 10:56 AM
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AND THE REAL UNPOPULAR OPINION:
—I don't think this new drama is entirely SN/Mick F at all. CMcV has SOMETHING to do with this
Of course. As MANY of us have stated before, she could have put a stop to this whole fiasco had she put her foot down and walked out the door with Lindsey. Then FM would not have been able to continue even though they probably would have, knowing Mick and how he operates. But with Lindsey and Chris both gone, Fleetwood Mac would just be Stevie Nicks' backup band and she already has one of those. So we blame Christine as much as the other two. Now even though I just agreed with you I do want to make it clear that I have chosen to forgive all of them and move forward in life. In this post I'm just rehashing history, and that is all.
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Old 10-30-2018, 12:17 PM
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Of course. As MANY of us have stated before, she could have put a stop to this whole fiasco had she put her foot down and walked out the door with Lindsey. Then FM would not have been able to continue even though they probably would have, knowing Mick and how he operates. But with Lindsey and Chris both gone, Fleetwood Mac would just be Stevie Nicks' backup band and she already has one of those. So we blame Christine as much as the other two. Now even though I just agreed with you I do want to make it clear that I have chosen to forgive all of them and move forward in life. In this post I'm just rehashing history, and that is all.
Then blame John, too. All four of them made the decision to continue on.
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Then blame John, too. All four of them made the decision to continue on.
Absolutely. See my reply to the previous comment.
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Old 10-30-2018, 02:36 PM
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Of course. As MANY of us have stated before, she could have put a stop to this whole fiasco had she put her foot down and walked out the door with Lindsey. Then FM would not have been able to continue even though they probably would have, knowing Mick and how he operates. But with Lindsey and Chris both gone, Fleetwood Mac would just be Stevie Nicks' backup band and she already has one of those. So we blame Christine as much as the other two. Now even though I just agreed with you I do want to make it clear that I have chosen to forgive all of them and move forward in life. In this post I'm just rehashing history, and that is all.
Agree 100%. I really only wrote that because once a few weeks ago I posited that the situation couldn't possibly be the one so readily and disgustingly being discussed and I was shot down for the mere suggestion that either of the McVies could have an opinion/say. And many comments I read seemed almost willful in their refusal to imagine this as a professional and/or corporate and/or marketing issue. In other words, that either McVie could or would have some part in this. Writing it at all had more to do with cutting into the abhorrent "take sides" arguments all over the place than any feelings I might have.

I for one am really happy with what's come out of this.

Personally, I was over any trepidation as soon as I saw the setlist and the videos from the first show (many of which I think you shared—thank you, btw). That Ellen appearance was a disaster and was what brought me back to the message board to see what was up...

It's been great to revisit all their music and I listened to Kiln House for the first time ever after hearing that great Tell Me All The Things You Do!
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Personally, I was over any trepidation as soon as I saw the setlist and the videos from the first show (many of which I think you shared—thank you, btw). That Ellen appearance was a disaster and was what brought me back to the message board to see what was up...

It's been great to revisit all their music and I listened to Kiln House for the first time ever after hearing that great Tell Me All The Things You Do!
You're welcome about the video's though I wasn't at the concerts myself. My job is to copy and paste for the world. I am thrilled that one song convinced you to listen to Kiln House. There are so many wonderful songs in FM's pre-1975 catalog.
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You're welcome about the video's though I wasn't at the concerts myself. My job is to copy and paste for the world. I am thrilled that one song convinced you to listen to Kiln House. There are so many wonderful songs in FM's pre-1975 catalog.
For some reason all these years I just stuck with the well-known songs (and some Chicken Shack)... It's been great fun to listen to more of the pre-BN music. Particularly struck with Kirwan's compositions. I might like Bare Trees best, though Xtine does have some jams on Heroes Are Hard to Find!!
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