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Old 10-11-2018, 06:37 PM
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You are joking right? Listen to Gypsy, and then the heartbreakers version and then talk to me. LINDSEY MADE their sound. He is HIGHLY respected throughout the industry and only someone who doesn't know what the F they are talking about woudln't give him credit. Thank God for Tusk because believe it or not it's one of the reasons they are still so respected today. If was up to the rest of them they would have went total cheese.
The earliest FM version of Gypsy already sounds like a hit. I don't hear any Lindsey influence whatsoever. I'm no sure he was even there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMg9KW6dhXc
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:56 PM
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The earliest FM version of Gypsy already sounds like a hit. I don't hear any Lindsey influence whatsoever. I'm no sure he was even there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMg9KW6dhXc
Now you're saying Lindsey didn't influence Gypsy???????? He was there TRUST me. This was done in France.
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Old 10-11-2018, 06:57 PM
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Now you're saying Lindsey didn't influence Gypsy???????? He was there TRUST me. This was done in France.
Gypsy would have been a hit without Lindsey. Listen to the recording.
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:01 PM
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Gypsy would have been a hit without Lindsey. Listen to the recording.
He's there producing it!! That was recorded in france. UGH nevermind
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:02 PM
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Gypsy would have been a hit without Lindsey. Listen to the recording.
Are you smoking crack? Lindsey made that song a hit.
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:07 PM
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Are you smoking crack? Lindsey made that song a hit.
I actually think Stevie acknowledged as much too in one of her intros
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:11 PM
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Are you smoking crack? Lindsey made that song a hit.
Why couldn't Lindsey make more of his own 'great' songs hits?
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Old 10-11-2018, 07:13 PM
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Why couldn't Lindsey make more of his own 'great' songs hits?
I don't know, why can't Stevie make an album without a producer helping her, or write more songs on her own?

When was Stevie's last hit again? about 30 years ago?

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Old 10-11-2018, 07:22 PM
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I don't know, why can't Stevie make an album without a producer helping her, or write more songs on her own?
Everyone has producers. Most hits have co-writers.
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:03 PM
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Gypsy would have been a hit without Lindsey. Listen to the recording.
I don't even like Lindsey, but this is just ridiculous. Try to listen to the infamous Gypsy-Demo that Stevie brought into the studio. This one here is the mercifully short version, I've heard a 20 minutes long version once, but only because I couldn't flee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKIC_Kza4Ek

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The earliest FM version of Gypsy already sounds like a hit. I don't hear any Lindsey influence whatsoever. I'm no sure he was even there.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMg9KW6dhXc
Nice try, but that is not the demo, that's an early FM take, as it is clearly stated on the Youtube site. As it is, it's proof to the point how much the band contributed to the success of that song, how much production was needed to make this little bit into a song in he first place.

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Old 10-11-2018, 08:12 PM
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I don't even like Lindsey, but this is just ridiculous. Try to listen to the infamous Gypsy-Demo that Stevie brought into the studio. This one here is the mercifully short version, I've heard a 20 minutes long version once, but only because I couldn't flee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKIC_Kza4Ek
That is really painful and while the very basic bones of the song are there, there is literally zero chance that song would've been the hit it was without Lindsey (and for that matter, Chris, Mick, and John too). Stevie has had some absolute gems through her career but like anyone else, she needed help to make things happen the way they did. This is what I F'N HATE about this situation - this band and the particular five Rumours era members, all need each other. They're talented on their own, they are superstars together.
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:13 PM
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That is really painful and while the very basic bones of the song are there, there is literally zero chance that song would've been the hit it was without Lindsey (and for that matter, Chris, Mick, and John too). Stevie has had some absolute gems through her career but like anyone else, she needed help to make things happen the way they did. This is what I F'N HATE about this situation - this band and the particular five Rumours era members, all need each other. They're talented on their own, they are superstars together.
BRAVO!
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Old 10-11-2018, 08:40 PM
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This is what I F'N HATE about this situation - this band and the particular five Rumours era members, all need each other. They're talented on their own, they are superstars together.
Together, the 5 fireflies have always been far more than the sum of their parts. Sadly enough, they all tend to forget that.
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