Songs they will keep/drop/add

[aleuzzi]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

At the first Fleetwood Mac show, they played "The Supernatural," which Peter recorded with the Bluesbreakers. Mick, Jeremy, and Bob Brunning were not on the original, and it wasn't a Fleetwood Mac song.

When Christine joined, they did "I'd Rather Go Blind," "Get Like You Used To Be," and "Crazy 'Bout You, Baby," which were either Chicken Shack or solo.

When Lindsey and Stevie joined, they did "Don't Let Me Down Again" and (briefly) "Frozen Love."

When Billy was in the band, they did "Tear It Up" and "The Bigger The Love."

When Dave Mason was in the band, they did "We Just Disagree," "Only You Know and I Know," "Feelin' Alright," and "Dear Mr. Fantasy."

ETA: The band has also done "Stand Back," "Go Insane," and HAEWAFY, which were also not Fleetwood Mac songs.

How is doing "Don't Dream It's Over" any crazier, or even slightly out of character?

I knew you were going to cite all those precedents, had anticipated them earlier today. Here's one difference: When Christine joined, FM didn't have a particularly high profile in the US. The band were free to explore and try on hats. Even when they toured Europe (considered without Green to be non-events) they were free to reinvent themselves because they were young and had no other choice.

Here's another difference: doing DDIO is A LOT crazier than "Stand Back" and "Go Insane" because those songs were written and sung by longstanding FM band members whose solo careers, no matter how popular they became, were still considered satellite projects of the mothership.

Stevie and Lindsey could do Buckingham/Nicks songs for the same reason Christine could sing Chicken Shack songs--moreover, neither Chicken Shack nor BN had any name recognition in America when they incorporated them into the band. No one really knew Billy Burnette when he joined, so his pre-FM songs were considered FM material in the same way--even if longstanding fans weren't really interested.

The only parallel you cite that resembles FM doing DDIO is with Dave Mason doing famous Traffic songs on the Time tour. Well--as everyone knows--that was an embarrassing low point for the band. It didn't make sense then and doing Crowded House tunes on an FM tour don't make any sense now.

We all know you want this new configuration to work and you are supporting the band's attempt to reboot. Cool. But most of us are just not buying it, not now. Had this been 1970 or 75--or even 1988, maybe....but it would have sucked even in 1973 if, say, a member of a once genuinely famous band came into the FM lineup and did former glories with them. Imagine Rod Stewart singing "Maggie Mae" on the PENGUIN tour. No thanks.

[David]

Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Here's another difference: doing DDIO is A LOT crazier than "Stand Back" and "Go Insane" because those songs were written and sung by longstanding FM band members whose solo careers, no matter how popular they became, were still considered satellite projects of the mothership.

Agree.

Stevie and Lindsey could do Buckingham/Nicks songs for the same reason Christine could sing Chicken Shack songs--moreover, neither Chicken Shack nor BN had any name recognition in America when they incorporated them into the band. No one really knew Billy Burnette when he joined, so his pre-FM songs were considered FM material in the same way--even if longstanding fans weren't really interested.

Agree.

The only parallel you cite that resembles FM doing DDIO is with Dave Mason doing famous Traffic songs on the Time tour. Well--as everyone knows--that was an embarrassing low point for the band. It didn't make sense then and doing Crowded House tunes on an FM tour don't make any sense now.

Agree. I attended a couple of 1994 gigs, with Bramlett singing her parents' music and "Gold Dust Woman" and even a song by John Lennon, Mason singing "We Just Disagree" and "All Along the Watchtower," and Burnette singing his family's music and "Go Your Own Way." Mason also sang "Only You Know and I Know," which as everyone knows is connected to Delaney and Bonnie. But a concert that is an illustration of the Six Degrees of Separation game is not necessarily a good time. Everybody but Mason performed earnestly and skillfully, but there was depression at the core of it. The band didn't know why it was playing all this stuff—it was frantically trying to connect.

Imagine Rod Stewart singing "Maggie Mae" on the PENGUIN tour. No thanks.

Agreed. That was the effect of the 1994 tour.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by David

. The band didn't know why it was playing all this stuff—it was frantically trying to connect.

Agreed. That was the effect of the 1994 tour.

This ^^^^^

From an artistic standpoint, it feels just like this. ^^^^^^ Desperate to keep the vase together so it can still hold flowers. But, once you arrange it you realize it's very old and fragile and don't quite know what to do with it because it's nearly embarrassing.

[KenshiMaster16]

Considering whom we're speaking of and their reluctance to change a setlist that drastically over the last decade or so, I'd be willing to bet we end up with something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Say You Love Me
Sara
Station Man
Free Fallin'
Landslide
Hold Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

Considering whom we're speaking of and their reluctance to change a setlist that drastically over the last decade or so, I'd be willing to bet we end up with something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Say You Love Me
Sara
Station Man
Free Fallin'
Landslide
Hold Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

Pretty much. I doubt Silver Springs will be played, though. Maybe Sara?

[SteveMacD]

Funny thing: Fleetwood Mac won’t be the only legendary band doing a Tom Petty tribute tomorrow night. The Byrds (McGuinn and Hillman w/ Marty Stuart) have been doing a couple of Tom Petty songs, too.

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

Considering whom we're speaking of and their reluctance to change a setlist that drastically over the last decade or so, I'd be willing to bet we end up with something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Say You Love Me
Sara
Station Man
Free Fallin'
Landslide
Hold Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

Without LB in the mix, I doubt we will ever hear Hold Me, Silver Springs or Sara again live.

[Buster]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

Considering whom we're speaking of and their reluctance to change a setlist that drastically over the last decade or so, I'd be willing to bet we end up with something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Stop Draggin' My Heart Around
Say You Love Me
Sara
Station Man
Free Fallin'
Landslide
Hold Me
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Go Your Own Way
World Turning
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

I don’t think SS, SDMHA, or Songbird will be in the setlist. Although maybe Songbird for the first few shows then dropped. I think only Oh Well for the pre-BN but maybe a 2nd one that is dropped. Not sure why I care but my setlist prediction, not in order:

The Chain
Dreams
Rhiannon
Free Fallin
Sara
Gypsy
Stand Back
Landslide with annoying dedication to those supporting this farce of a new band
Say You Love Me
You Make Loving Fun
Everywhere
Little Lies
Over My Head
Brown Eyes
Something else from Tusk by Christine
Don’t Dream It’s Over :eyeroll:
Go Your Own Way :eyeroll:
Second Hand News :eyeroll:
World Turning
Don’t Stop
One surprise

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Buster

I don’t think SS, SDMHA, or Songbird will be in the setlist. Although maybe Songbird for the first few shows then dropped. I think only Oh Well for the pre-BN but maybe a 2nd one that is dropped. Not sure why I care but my setlist prediction, not in order:


Landslide with annoying dedication to those supporting this farce of a new band

One surprise

Imagine if $he actually said that!!

[KenshiMaster16]

The only way I would even remotely change my mind about not going and try and grab some tickets is if they use this opportunity to really change things up (which will only happen if Hell freezes). Something along these lines;

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Second Hand News
Rhiannon
Rattlesnake Shake
Fireflies
Say You Love Me
Angel
Station Man
Why
Crystal
As Long As You Follow
Gypsy
Little Lies
Don't Dream It's Over
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
You Make Loving Fun
Go Your Own Way
Hypnotized
Don't Stop
Landslide
Songbird