Fleetwood Mac on Ellen

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

The rate for songwriting royalties right now is nine cents per song. If he sold 12 million albums by TODAY’S rate, assuming he was the lone writer, and I believe writers get paid for 12 songs max per album (don’t quote me on that), he’d be worth $12.96 million. Not bad, but not $30 million.

Huh? There is no standard songwriting royalty per song. It's based on a ton of factors such as sales, plays, streams, movie features, etc. A song like "Don't Dream It's Over" is used everywhere and songs like that generate somewhere between 500,000 to a million per year. Then you add in his other big hits like Something So Strong, Song of The Lonely Mountain, I Got You, etc. He's the sole songwriter in most of his songs as well meaning that gets all the royalties on those songs and doesn't have to share with co-writers. That's separate from the 12 million album sales that Crowded House has had plus his album sales from Split Enz, Finn Brothers, solo albums, etc. Then you add in all the tours and the revenue he gets from having a very active recording studio that he rents out to musicians and you get about 30 million in total net worth.

[lovethemac1]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Huh? There is no standard songwriting royalty per song. It's based on a ton of factors such as sales, plays, streams, movie features, etc. A song like "Don't Dream It's Over" is used everywhere and songs like that generate somewhere between 500,000 to a million per year. Then you add in his other big hits like Something So Strong, Song of The Lonely Mountain, I Got You, etc. He's the sole songwriter in most of his songs as well meaning that gets all the royalties on those songs and doesn't have to share with co-writers. That's separate from the 12 million album sales that Crowded House has had plus his album sales from Split Enz, Finn Brothers, solo albums, etc. Then you add in all the tours and the revenue he gets from having a very active recording studio that he rents out to musicians and you get about 30 million in total net worth.

SugarMouse, are you a member of a Crowded House/Split Enz/Neil Finn/Finn Family fan site?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by lovethemac1

SugarMouse, are you a member of a Crowded House/Split Enz/Neil Finn/Finn Family fan site?

I’m not, but I have gone on record as saying DDIO was the best pop song of the ‘80s (YEARS ago), and “Persuasion” is a top-5 Richard Thompson song.

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I’m not, but I have gone on record as saying DDIO was the best pop song of the ‘80s (YEARS ago), and “Persuasion” is a top-5 Richard Thompson song.

Agree about "Don't Dream It's Over". For me, it was also the best pop song of the 80's. It's one of those songs that carries such emotional weight and has that unforgettable melody. I would also say that "I Got You" was one of the best pop songs of the 80's. It's such a killer song when Neil and Tim perform it together. Persuasion is actually a Tim Finn song and not a Neil song.

[bombaysaffires]

I don't know about anyone else, but I commented on the vocals on the BuckVie performances being off. I even posted in almost real-time when I saw them live and commented on how off many of the vocals were. I also posted about the pre recorded tracks which I do not like

But apparently I'm now part of the Lindsey can do no wrong and I hate FM crowd.

One thing BuckVie shows had was an INCREDIBLE energy. Granted they started slow with that acoustic mini set (which I thought was a bad idea) but it was a barnburner once they got going. I will also add the energy of the two of them on Fallon was lovely.

It will be interesting to see what the energy level is for the rest of the FM appearances and on the tour.

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

I don't know about anyone else, but I commented on the vocals on the BuckVie performances being off. I even posted in almost real-time when I saw them live and commented on how off many of the vocals were. I also posted about the pre recorded tracks which I do not like

But apparently I'm now part of the Lindsey can do no wrong and I hate FM crowd.

One thing BuckVie shows had was an INCREDIBLE energy. Granted they started slow with that acoustic mini set (which I thought was a bad idea) but it was a barnburner once they got going. I will also add the energy of the two of them on Fallon was lovely.

It will be interesting to see what the energy level is for the rest of the FM appearances and on the tour.

I really think the energy level will improve as Neil and Mike become more comfortable and acclimated to the Mac environment. Neil will never bring Lindsey level energy but it will be fine. And Neil's vocals bring far more harmony richness to the vocal blend than the band has had since the Danny Kirwan years.

[Mr Scarrott]

I have to admit that I initially feared that Christine wasn't playing the keyboard at all, but miming. Having had another quick look at the footage,
she is clearly putting her foot on the sustain pedal at certain points. She wouldn't bother to do that, I would think, if she was faking it. I do think that the "backing" keyboardist is doing the heavy lifting, though.

But doesn't she look great?

The other thing I will admit to is that I always enjoy watching Mick playing. Whatever his faults, personal or musical, he's clearly in his element.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

I really think the energy level will improve as Neil and Mike become more comfortable and acclimated to the Mac environment. Neil will never bring Lindsey level energy but it will be fine. And Neil's vocals bring far more harmony richness to the vocal blend than the band has had since the Danny Kirwan years.

That's the problem here. He will never bring the amount of energy Lindsey had on stage, and that's the main complaint I read yesterdady. He can be Pavarotti (which he isn't) and he still won't have the amount of energy and chemistry with the rest of the band that Lindsey had.

[elle]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

I really think the energy level will improve as Neil and Mike become more comfortable and acclimated to the Mac environment. Neil will never bring Lindsey level energy but it will be fine. And Neil's vocals bring far more harmony richness to the vocal blend than the band has had since the Danny Kirwan years.

have you watched any of those 100s of Neil vids you sprinkled all over these boards? the guy doesn't do energy.

[mylittledemon]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Neil will never bring Lindsey level energy but it will be fine. And Neil's vocals bring far more harmony richness to the vocal blend than the band has had since the Danny Kirwan years.

How do you find settling for a perceived increase in the richness of new vocal harmonies versus Lindsey's enthusiasm?

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Persuasion is actually a Tim Finn song and not a Neil song.

I know. The question was if you were on a fanpage/forum for “Crowded House/Split Enz/Neil Finn/Finn Family.” Last I checked, Tim was part of the Finn family.

[Angel75]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

I’m not, but I have gone on record as saying DDIO was the best pop song of the ‘80s (YEARS ago), and “Persuasion” is a top-5 Richard Thompson song.

Even though Persuasion is a TIM FINN song?

And the Finn family part you mentioned is totally irrelevant, the brothers solo careers are completely separate. It's like saying Stevie and Lindsey's solo careers are linked.....uuuummmm. no.

But back to the point, Neil is incredibly wealthy and not a spender there is no point denying that part. Mick however I very much doubt and am actually certain has very few dollars in the bank to rub together

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Angel75

Even though Persuasion is a TIM FINN song?

My initial reply was in answer to this post…

Originally Posted by lovethemac1

SugarMouse, are you a member of a Crowded House/Split Enz/Neil Finn/Finn Family fan site?

And the Finn family part you mentioned is totally irrelevant,

It was literally mentioned in the post I replied to.

[g. fish]

Yesterday's performance shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Lindsey has been carrying the band on his back for the last two decades. His energy and charisma was so valuable to this band.

I really thought that Neil's voice would sound a bit closer to Lindsey. As a lead singer, Neil is not a good fit for large arena shows. He's a low key, easy going kind of guy. No way he can bring the same level of energy as Lindsey. It's not in his DNA.

I think the world of Christine. But she's five years older than Lindsey and Stevie. She looks great, but she's really frail. It was so evident on the Buck Vie tour.

So now Stevie is the leader of the band. Okay, so she has no range anymore. No big deal, everyone loves Stevie. Just ask her. Really, she has become so self centered. Have you ever heard anyone talk as much about ME and I. Her speech at Music Cares was an embarrassment. I used to be a Stevie fan. Then I realized how shallow and self centered she has become. And frankly, I don't think she's very intelligent spewing lies and constantly contradicting herself.

Looking forward to Lindsey's tour. First time ever that I will miss a FM concert...and I've seen them eleven times. No more.