Fleetwood Mac on Ellen - Page 25

BlanketMan · #**361** 09-06-2018, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

Billboard thought their performance on Ellen was "charming". Not sure that's the kind of reaction you look for in a rock band. Or even an adult contemporary band. Charming is for the likes of Justin Bieber. Or Taylor Swift maybe. Not seasoned veterans.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/c...up-chain-gypsy

It's more of a factual account than a review. We get a few snippets: "...they've still got it...Both guitarists delivered flawless performances on the show, with Finn handling the vocal parts previously sung by Buckingham as naturally as Nicks." Not exactly a ringing endorsement; pretty lightweight stuff. It is Billboard, though, not Rolling Stone.

**jbrownsjr** · #**362** 09-06-2018, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

She was looking pretty fat to me...

Mama's got some sh*t to hide!

Nothing wrong with being heavy at her age. i just think she looks amazing in colors or some sort of style. I'm tired of the old crappy gloves. She looks like she just rolled out of choir practice.

Christine looked absolutely stunning. She's aging in reverse. Now if we can get her to sing and play keyboards...errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr her job that people are paying to see... we'll be fine.

HomerMcvie · #**363** 09-06-2018, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by lovethemac1

She looked like she was going to a funeral, and her smug look may me want to scream.............

I agree. You can clearly see that $he'$ now the bo$$.

Now that it's $tevie's Nick$ FM, F*CK THEM.

**jbrownsjr** · #**364** 09-06-2018, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I agree. You can clearly see that $he'$ now the bo$$.

Now that it's $tevie's Nick$ FM, F*CK THEM.

We don't need to, they f'd themselves. We can talk about pitch problems with $tevie, Christine not playing etc...

Bottom line. They are a cover band. Good thing it's their alleged last tour. People won't come back to see that again.

Hawkeye · #**365** 09-06-2018, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000

This. It’s like the substance has been zapped from the band. The Chain is a song about passion, anger, and stubborn determination- this rendition had none of those emotions. The only word to describe it was just sad. Deeply sad.

Gypsy was less unfortunate to me. Like others have said, it’s never translated to the stage well, and Stevie never seems to have been able to nail the vocal, even back in the early ‘80s. I think her adjusting the vocal here was smart- made it much less cringeworthy. I still find it horribly sad this was the song Stevie purposely chose to sing, though. Of any of her FM songs, Gypsy is the one most closely associated with her musical relationship with Lindsey. It’s the song of hers he was most proud to help develop, and it’s the one song Stevie chose to perform for the new line up’s world debut. No wonder she was grinning the entire time... she stabbed Lindsey in the back and just keeps twisting the blade.

My exact thoughts on Gypsy. I honestly thought it wasn’t even going to be played on this tour. They’ve left on off 1 or 2 tours in the last 20 years with Lindsey. Gypsy along with Sara are the 2 Stevie songs that show off Lindsey’s production heinous on her songs and they just have a uniquely Lindsey vibe. Not only is it making the set, they’re playing it on TV?

Feather Blade · #**366** 09-06-2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires

i wonder if she were more turned sideways as she always was in the past it would just make it far too obvious she's not playing. When she's turned to the front, as she was on the BuckVie tour, it's much harder to see her hands.

That was my thought as well.

HomerMcvie · #**367** 09-06-2018, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Nothing wrong with being heavy at her age. i just think she looks amazing in colors or some sort of style. I'm tired of the old crappy gloves. She looks like she just rolled out of choir practice.

Christine looked absolutely stunning. She's aging in reverse. Now if we can get her to sing and play keyboards...errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr her job that people are paying to see... we'll be fine.

I'm explaining why she was wearing black.

Her last facial work leaves something to be desired. She looks like a cream cheese filled latex glove.

So Christine does look wonderful. But if her voice is shot, why isn't she at least playing? Arthritis is my only guess. Unless it's memory/stage fright(of forgetting the parts) issue.

**jbrownsjr** · #**368** 09-06-2018, 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I'm explaining why she was wearing black.

Her last facial work leaves something to be desired. She looks like a cream cheese filled latex glove.

So Christine does look wonderful. But if her voice is shot, why isn't she at least playing? Arthritis is my only guess. Unless it's memory/stage fright(of forgetting the parts) issue.

I'm not buying any of this. I think it's just lazy. Artistically lazy. Thank God she wrote songs when she came back or I would fire her in my head.

Still, kudos on those sparkling eyes, and her updated outfit.

fleetwoodguy79 · #**369** 09-06-2018, 10:50 AM

Just watched both performances. Was very sad to watch but tried to keep an open mind.

Overall, they sound "generic" to me.

The energy that Lindsey brought is gone. The buildup and guitar solo at the end of "The Chain", as an example; you can tell Lindsey loves that part and gets into it every show. This iteration of the band just feels "meh". Like, the little piano roll coming into the end... really? Felt like a jam band, not this unique and iconic band that we've all grown to love.

Stevie has a massive smile on her face during that performance. It's clear this is what she wanted and is enjoying it; good for her. Both her and Christine look good.

Lindsey's uniqueness is missing in every possible way - his stage persona - his energy - his production - his guitar playing - his "sound" --- all balanced out what this band otherwise has as a generic rock 'n roll sound. And that's the Achilles heel of LB solo and FM without him, they just don't balance each other out at this level without one another.

I'm looking forward to seeing LB on his solo tour next month!

**jbrownsjr** · #**370** 09-06-2018, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by fleetwoodguy79

Just watched both performances. Was very sad to watch but tried to keep an open mind.

Overall, they sound "generic" to me.

The energy that Lindsey brought is gone. The buildup and guitar solo at the end of "The Chain", as an example; you can tell Lindsey loves that part and gets into it every show. This iteration of the band just feels "meh". Like, the little piano roll coming into the end... really? Felt like a jam band, not this unique and iconic band that we've all grown to love.

Stevie has a massive smile on her face during that performance. It's clear this is what she wanted and is enjoying it; good for her. Both her and Christine look good.

Lindsey's uniqueness is missing in every possible way - his stage persona - his energy - his production - his guitar playing - his "sound" --- all balanced out what this band otherwise has as a generic rock 'n roll sound. And that's the Achilles heel of LB solo and FM without him, they just don't balance each other out at this level without one another.

I'm looking forward to seeing LB on his solo tour next month!

It's like: Careful what you wish for.

aleuzzi · #**371** 09-06-2018, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr

Christine looked absolutely stunning. She's aging in reverse. Now if we can get her to sing and play keyboards...errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr her job that people are paying to see... we'll be fine.

Yes, she looks great. But man, I am OVER her not singing or playing onstage. She stands there, smiles, lip syncs, even does a few little hand gestures, but that's it.

I don't care if her voice is worn down. Still sing. I'd rather hear her croak than just stand there pretending.

And if she's banging on the keys, why mute them? I'm so disappointed that she resurrected only to be a pale version of herself.

On LB/CM I could hear and appreciate her keyboard parts--the piano on "Game", the organ on "Carnival", the electric piano on "The Way I Feel" and "Red Sun"--that was all her. And her voice, with judicious dusting and autotuning, still sounds great. But she doesn't seem to be able to do live shows anymore.

Do a studio solo album and forget the megamack tours.

**jbrownsjr** · #**372** 09-06-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi

Yes, she looks great. But man, I am OVER her not singing or playing onstage. She stands there, smiles, lip syncs, even does a few little hand gestures, but that's it.

I don't care if her voice is worn down. Still sing. I'd rather hear her croak than just stand there pretending.

And if she's banging on the keys, why mute them? I'm so disappointed that she resurrected only to be a pale version of herself.

On LB/CM I could hear and appreciate her keyboard parts--the piano on "Game", the organ on "Carnival", the electric piano on "The Way I Feel" and "Red Sun"--that was all her. And her voice, with judicious dusting and autotuning, still sounds great. But she doesn't seem to be able to do live shows anymore.

Do a studio solo album and forget the megamack tours.

Watch the Ellen ver of The Chain. I hear her doing some elec. keyboard parts. LIttle trills and what not.

Storms123 · #**373** 09-06-2018, 11:47 AM

I hope at some point, their “people” wander over here and read the comments. While the sarcastic comments and pointed remarks are there, the underlying message and reception is there. They need to know, whether they care or not is a different story.