Bilboard Article - Mick Fleetwood Opens Up About Lindsey Buckingham's Departure - Page 11

sue · #**151** 08-09-2018, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpossibleHoney

OMG! This is STILL going on?

Ticket sales: Why is anyone surprised by this? They have continually shoveled out the same setlist for over two decades now (outside of the Say You Will tour but even that evolved further and further into the formulaic FM setlist with time) and honestly, yep - even I am tired of "Dreams", "Go Your Own Way" and "Big Love" by this point. Lindsey's motivational speeches and Mick's over long drum solos - those can go too. It's boring and it's predictable and with how much these tickets are now - its becoming harder and harder to justify.

I saw BuckVie opening night in Atlanta - 4th or 5th row. The show was better than expected but I remember walking away thinking ARE MY CHILDHOOD IDOLS PHONING IT IN NOW? They're singing along to guided vocals like a pop star....what's the world coming to indeed.
I also say Stevie on the 24K tour 4th row in Orlando as part of my honeymoon. Admittedly, Stevie & the Mac have been around since before I can remember and husband thought itd be cute to surprise me with these tickets. Was it long and rambling? YES! But I loved the the Storytellers/Behind The Music aspect to it. It was DIFFERENT!

As for Lindsey being the genius of FM - I giggle every single time someone comes up with this. Okay. Maybe back in the day. Have you actually heard Say You Will and BuckVie? I dont know if he gets demoitis and cant fill a song anymore but, it all sounds half baked. The exception is probably "Miranda" but the rest just do not have the Mac magic. The songs aren't full and are just incredibly sparse in arrangement and production. Is it any wonder? Seriously, go listen to the "Wall Of Sound" version of "Thrown Down" (which yes, I know he was involved with) and tell me he didn't completely ruin this song for "Say You Will". I'd have fired him then just for that alone but, thats me. "Thrown Down" is or was the modern Stevie classic and he torched it with production. Then you go to "Mabel Normand" which is beautiful and gorgeous and FULL in production and a fully realized song from the depths of demo Hell (yeah, I still dont know how they pulled this song from THAT demo but....) and its great. Yeah, I wouldn't want Lindsey anywhere near Stevie's songs now.

I still don't know why there still seems to be such a witch hunt for Stevie or excuse me, $tevie, in regards to this whole Lindsey being fired thing comes from. A majority here seem to think they were in the middle of these conversations as they were going down. No one knows anything. Lindsey hasn't said anything yet (he sure does have a thing for women who spill all of his business doesn't he), Stevie has said very little and yet, y'all are ready to burn her down. Makes no sense.

You’re very brave, I take my hat off....
I may not agree with all you say but well said.

BigAl84 · #**152** 08-09-2018, 12:18 PM

I was a die hard Stevie fan for YEARS. I'm not an evil Stevie hating gremlin child spawn from h*ll. LOLLOLOL

BigAl84 · #**153** 08-09-2018, 12:20 PM

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You’re very brave, I take my hat off....
I may not agree with all you say but well said.

There's nothing brave about posting your opinion on a public forum.

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sue · #**154** 08-09-2018, 12:35 PM

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There's nothing brave about posting your opinion on a public forum.

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Yes, you’re right, it’s a free world !!!!!

nicepace · #**155** 08-09-2018, 12:36 PM

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There is a post above about how Christine should never stand for this and should walk away. Did you ever think that maybe she agrees? Maybe Lindsey did or said something really terrible AGAIN and she thinks he deserves to be out?

This seems really unlikely, after the fun Christine had making and touring the BuckVie album with Lindsey. There is a quote above from Chris from last year in which she talks about Lindsey as her musical partner; that quote reflects the attitude Chris has always had. She has also looked really uncomfortable in interviews since the Lindsey firing, and hasn't said anything indicating she is looking forward to this new incarnation of the Mac. In other words, there is no evidence that Chris wanted Lindsey out of the band.

**jbrownsjr** · #**156** 08-09-2018, 12:42 PM

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ON the back of the jacket is the slogan: "Set your secrets free..."

It says,

"Stand Back, If Anyone falls, It will be ONE of us!!"

BigAl84 · #**157** 08-09-2018, 12:46 PM

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**jbrownsjr** · #**158** 08-09-2018, 12:48 PM

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haha!! Love this.

BigAl84 · #**159** 08-09-2018, 12:55 PM

You know me...spreading that vitriol....

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gldstwmn · #**160** 08-09-2018, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpossibleHoney

I saw BuckVie opening night in Atlanta - 4th or 5th row. The show was better than expected but I remember walking away thinking ARE MY CHILDHOOD IDOLS PHONING IT IN NOW? They're singing along to guided vocals like a pop star....what's the world coming to indeed.
I also say Stevie on the 24K tour 4th row in Orlando as part of my honeymoon. Admittedly, Stevie & the Mac have been around since before I can remember and husband thought itd be cute to surprise me with these tickets. Was it long and rambling? YES! But I loved the the Storytellers/Behind The Music aspect to it. It was DIFFERENT!

She wasn't singing with a guide vocal either. She still gives riveting performances like Moonlight from the 24K Tour or this performance:

That version should be released.

**jbrownsjr** · #**161** 08-09-2018, 01:44 PM

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You know me...spreading that vitriol....

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Nights in Vitriol by Christine McVie

SteveMacD · #**162** 08-09-2018, 01:58 PM

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She has also looked really uncomfortable in interviews since the Lindsey firing, and hasn't said anything indicating she is looking forward to this new incarnation of the Mac.

“We saw the cellphone footage of that first session. They ran through 10 songs in those two days. Christine McVie also liked what she heard.

"The essence of the band was great, and fun, and the three voices sound really good together," McVie said. "I'm really happy."”

BigAl84 · #**163** 08-09-2018, 02:37 PM

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“We saw the cellphone footage of that first session. They ran through 10 songs in those two days. Christine McVie also liked what she heard.

"The essence of the band was great, and fun, and the three voices sound really good together," McVie said. "I'm really happy."”

...as if she was going to say anything else in that situation?

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David · #**164** 08-09-2018, 03:36 PM

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Have you actually heard Say You Will and BuckVie? I dont know if he gets demoitis and cant fill a song anymore but, it all sounds half baked. The exception is probably "Miranda" but the rest just do not have the Mac magic. The songs aren't full and are just incredibly sparse in arrangement and production.

This of course is subjective. If the tracks don't do anything for you, they don't. What can you do? Some of the sparest tracks are some of the most breathtaking to me: Save Me a Place, Angel, Dreams, Honey Hi, Steal Your Heart Away. For my money, there's Mac magic on these and others—a lean, clean rhythm track and a minimal overlay of acoustic guitar or electric piano, very little else. They're all the right production for the song. That's the Mac magic, not necessarily copious amounts of rococo ornamentation (although the Mac can work magic out of that, too). I think most of the tracks on the Buckingham McVie album have some charm, and the songs seem to benefit from the light touch they're given.