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[KenshiMaster16]

As someone who has been on this board for over a decade and has lurked for a lot longer, people's opinions here do not bother me as they are entitled to them whatever they may be whether it's praising or criticism. Name calling doesn't bother me either as it's just an expressive way of airing out emotions. It's not like they are threats of violence so what does it matter?

Anyway, criticism is a good thing. Too much ass kissing and places become almost too controlling and people can't express themselves honestly so what's the point in posting at all? Everyone is fallible, even the enchanting Miss Nicks and the animal Mr. Fleetwood. They are not above criticism. I literally posted the following on the Ivory Keys facebook page and got my comment deleted; "Uh look, I admire Mick as much as the next guy but saying they have to say creative when he had no problems with cash grab Hits tours for the past decade? Little hypocritical, don't ya think?"

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

Anyway, criticism is a good thing. Too much ass kissing and places become almost too controlling and people can't express themselves honestly so what's the point in posting at all? Everyone is fallible, even the enchanting Miss Nicks and the animal Mr. Fleetwood. They are not above criticism. I literally posted the following on the Ivory Keys facebook page and got my comment deleted; "Uh look, I admire Mick as much as the next guy but saying they have to say creative when he had no problems with cash grab Hits tours for the past decade? Little hypocritical, don't ya think?"

The Ivory Keys group is....something lol. The guy who runs that place is a bit too hardcore when it comes to Stevie.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

The Ivory Keys group is....something lol. The guy who runs that place is a bit too hardcore when it comes to Stevie.

Actually he doesn't run it anymore because he got tired of nasty people harassing the daylights out of him and having all of his blog posts (containing rare music files) deleted. Hence the rule that only positive things be said. It's not a bad thing and was an especially good place to hang out during the Lindsey debacle.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Actually he doesn't run it anymore because he got tired of nasty people harassing the daylights out of him and having all of his blog posts (containing rare music files) deleted. Hence the rule that only positive things be said. It's not a bad thing and was an especially good place to hang out during the Lindsey debacle.

I know the music files would get taken down but the rest is quite far from what I've heard. I heard of so many people-- all Stevie fans btw-- who said they got warnings and comments deleted if they would make simple remarks like that Stevie's hair looked kinda frizzy in a certain picture. And some people had their separate Twitter accounts stalked and kicked out of the group if they people in charge didn't like what they posted on their Twitter-- separate from the FB group. When I'd ask about it a lot of people would just tell me that the guy in charge can be really aggressive when it comes to "defending" Stevie and polices the place too hard.

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I know the music files would get taken down but the rest is quite far from what I've heard. I heard of so many people-- all Stevie fans btw-- who said they got warnings and comments deleted if they would make simple remarks like that Stevie's hair looked kinda frizzy in a certain picture. And some people had their separate Twitter accounts stalked and kicked out of the group if they people in charge didn't like what they posted on their Twitter-- separate from the FB group. When I'd ask about it a lot of people would just tell me that the guy in charge can be really aggressive when it comes to "defending" Stevie and polices the place too hard.

I really enjoy Ivory Keys overall, and was quite grateful for the files, but even I got banned briefly - not for disparaging Stevie - for disparaging Joe Walsh! Turns out the guy ships Stevie and Joe hardcore. Luckily the other admin, who is a friend, pled my case and I was reinstated. That was a while back, though.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

I really enjoy Ivory Keys overall, but even I got banned briefly - not for disparaging Stevie - for disparaging Joe Walsh! Turns out the guy ships Stevie and Joe hardcore. Luckily the other admin pled my case and I was reinstated.

I heard about that too. Even though Joe basically wanted nothing to do with her besides a "road f*ck" and said awful, cruel things about her. Even sober he was so dismissive of her and their relationship. Strange.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

Even sober he was so dismissive of her and their relationship. Strange.

I listened to that Howard Stern interview (if that's what you're referring to). I don't think he was so much dismissive as not wanting to talk about it because he felt it might be disrespectful to his wife. I remember he began a few of his responses with "Well my wife..." He did acknowledge that Stevie was special and that they were both so whacked out on coke that they had to seperate. I wonder if his responses are colored by the fact that he truly can't remember that much.

[Angel75]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I heard about that too. Even though Joe basically wanted nothing to do with her besides a "road f*ck" and said awful, cruel things about her. Even sober he was so dismissive of her and their relationship. Strange.

Shipping Stevie and Joe is definitely a strange one ....eeeew why and how could you?

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

I really enjoy Ivory Keys overall, and was quite grateful for the files, but even I got banned briefly - not for disparaging Stevie - for disparaging Joe Walsh! Turns out the guy ships Stevie and Joe hardcore. Luckily the other admin pled my case and I was reinstated. That was a while back, though.

Wow. It's not hard to disparage Joe for his previous antics. I still haven't read the groupie book because I actually like Joe and don't know if I really want/need to know all of that. I will say that the woman he is married to now, Marjorie Bach seems like a very classy woman. I wondered if Ringo introduced them since Ringo is married to her sister Barbara. Joe has come a long way I think.
Anyway I don't know if he shipped Joe and Stevie that hard until he discovered the Priest of Nothing demo.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Wow. It's not hard to disparage Joe for his previous antics. I still haven't read the groupie book because I actually like Joe and don't know if I really want/need to know all of that. I will say that the woman he is married to now, Marjorie Bach seems like a very classy woman. I wondered if Ringo introduced them since Ringo is married to her sister Barbara. Joe has come a long way I think.
Anyway I don't know if he shipped Joe and Stevie that hard until he discovered the Priest of Nothing demo.

I think he cleaned up his act (on Howard Stern when he was sober and still dismissive of her he acknowledged she was someone he had apologized to during his 12 steps) but it's so odd to me how people can "ship" that relationship when it's pretty obvious (to me at least) that he didn't care for her too much and she was at the time extremely, extremely drug addicted which no doubt in my mind really impacted her personality/behavior. I think Stevie is one of those people who 'feels' the most about her most toxic relationships. Which helps her write good songs but imo that's not how love should be.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I know the music files would get taken down but the rest is quite far from what I've heard. I heard of so many people-- all Stevie fans btw-- who said they got warnings and comments deleted if they would make simple remarks like that Stevie's hair looked kinda frizzy in a certain picture. And some people had their separate Twitter accounts stalked and kicked out of the group if they people in charge didn't like what they posted on their Twitter-- separate from the FB group. When I'd ask about it a lot of people would just tell me that the guy in charge can be really aggressive when it comes to "defending" Stevie and polices the place too hard.

That's interesting. I didn't know about any of that. I guess it's just like a lot of people have different opinions of this place.

[StreetAngel86]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I know the music files would get taken down but the rest is quite far from what I've heard. I heard of so many people-- all Stevie fans btw-- who said they got warnings and comments deleted if they would make simple remarks like that Stevie's hair looked kinda frizzy in a certain picture. And some people had their separate Twitter accounts stalked and kicked out of the group if they people in charge didn't like what they posted on their Twitter-- separate from the FB group. When I'd ask about it a lot of people would just tell me that the guy in charge can be really aggressive when it comes to "defending" Stevie and polices the place too hard.

i got banned from there
and i didn't even get a warning or have any posts deleted
rarely even engaged on there.
too much @ss kissing over there and sunshine and rainbows
the world is not like that. can't live in no filtered enviro like that

[Frankenstein]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I know the music files would get taken down but the rest is quite far from what I've heard. I heard of so many people-- all Stevie fans btw-- who said they got warnings and comments deleted if they would make simple remarks like that Stevie's hair looked kinda frizzy in a certain picture. And some people had their separate Twitter accounts stalked and kicked out of the group if they people in charge didn't like what they posted on their Twitter-- separate from the FB group. When I'd ask about it a lot of people would just tell me that the guy in charge can be really aggressive when it comes to "defending" Stevie and polices the place too hard.

I got banned because he posted that Thousand Days was about Joe Walsh and I said Stevie had stated the song was about Prince

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Frankenstein

I got banned because he posted that Thousand Days was about Joe Walsh and I said Stevie had stated the song was about Prince

Oh wow lol. Yeah I heard a lot of stuff like that too, people would get in trouble if they said things he disagreed with or made little comments like "Her voice sounds a little off here" or "Not a fan of that hair on her" etc. Because I guess Stevie can't possibly ever sound off or have bad hair lol. And other weird stuff. And he apparently only mildly tolerated the other band members and haaaated Lindsey excessively.

[BigAl84]

Originally Posted by gldstwmn

Actually he doesn't run it anymore because he got tired of nasty people harassing the daylights out of him and having all of his blog posts (containing rare music files) deleted. Hence the rule that only positive things be said. It's not a bad thing and was an especially good place to hang out during the Lindsey debacle.

riiiiiiiigghhhhtttt...flies follow sh*t.