Mick denies Stevie Nicks kicked Lindsey out of

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Your Rick Turner thread is incomplete. It doesn't include the part I mentioned. Nice try.

Post the part you mentioned. Put up or shut up.

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Post the part you mentioned. Put up or shut up.

Numerous folks here have posted that Rick said that. I'm not going to track it down.

[Sugar Mouse]

Perhaps it would be more helpful to the conversation if each person posts what they've think happened. I've already done that but few of you have. Will be good to have it on record.

[saniette]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Perhaps it would be more helpful to the conversation if each person posts what they've think happened. I've already done that but few of you have. Will be good to have it on record.

Well that wasn't hard for you, since you're just repeating the band's story. "Whatever Stevie and Mick say", right?

I don't claim to know what happened, but clearly Stevie and Lindsey's relationship broke down, and he was the casualty. And I think BuckVie was the most recent grudge on her list, since it made her look like what she is - not a team player in the band. In any case, I think it's pretty clear she wanted Mike Campbell in the band, and that's what we have now.

What I thought both sides could agree on is that the band's story is obviously not the whole story. But you seem to view it as the "gold standard" by which everything else is judged. Only Stevie said November 2019, and suddenly that is an airtight story? No one else has corroborated that date. Well, Lindsey said there's factions in the band that lost perspective. How come that holds no weight with you?

But I've pretty much given up on the powers of logic and persuasion here. You only interpret things to confirm your bias, and you really are just trolling now.

[mikeymac]

@saniette "I don't claim to know what happened, but clearly Stevie and Lindsey's relationship broke down... and that's what we have now.": Good thought; I agree!

[SteveMacD]

While I don’t believe what Stevie is saying, would people here feel different or better if she had said “He wanted to do solo dates on our nights off, which the majority of the band felt was unacceptable. This is the time we get to be a band, and we felt Lindsey’s solo dates would diminish that.”?

[sasja]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

While I don’t believe what Stevie is saying, would people here feel different or better if she had said “He wanted to do solo dates on our nights off, which the majority of the band felt was unacceptable. This is the time we get to be a band, and we felt Lindsey’s solo dates would diminish that.”?

SteveMacD, very good question, and my reply would have to be:

Hahhahaahaaa! No.
On HOW many occasions over the years has that band had to wait around for Stevie, who then eventually still never showed up? Or at the most,literally merely called in a lackluster smidgen? In recording situations, especially. Most notably recently, 2 years ago, upon Christine's return and the Duo (Quartet) album rather than band album that subsequently followed last year. And "nobody" got canned then either, did she?

No, that'd never wash, "“He wanted to do solo dates on our nights off, which the majority of the band felt was unacceptable. This is the time we get to be a band, and we felt Lindsey’s solo dates would diminish that.”?

I am afraid I would burst out in loud laughter, of the derogatory variety, to my own discredit, that last, but still, it would be hard to prevent.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Numerous folks here have posted that Rick said that. I'm not going to track it down.

Rick never once said Lindsey asked to delay the tour. When the conversation was reposted I clicked the link and read the entire thing and he never once said that. All he said was that he knew there were plans and talks about Lindsey doing concurrent shows and that it was complicated and the band probably didn't like it.
And no one on here except you has ever posted saying Rick claimed Lindsey did ask to delay the tour. I'm not sure where you're getting that idea. And I even actually think it's possible that he did at one point suggest that, but Rick absolutely did not say that anywhere.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Numerous folks here have posted that Rick said that. I'm not going to track it down.

Nobody posted that Rick said anything about Lindsey trying to delay the tour because he didn’t. I looked through the entire thread on Facebook. At no point did he ever suggest it. Sorry that’s an inconvenient truth for you. At least I looked, not relying on what other people said, and posted his actual words on the subject were.

Again, if you have proof he said otherwise, put up or shut up.

[mikeymac]

I came here expecting to see discussion on whether people believe Mick and speculation as to what really happened. To me, something is missing. Note what Mick is denying, denying that "Stevie was responsible" or that she "gave an ultimatum". I think he's walking a fine line here, and finds it appropriate to say "No" because he can twist the wording in his mind. But that's it? Just No?
He and Stevie's explanations remind me of what a gang would say after a hit: "Did one of you do this?"; "No, we all did". Just my opinion but I think there's more than they're saying. Right off the bat "couldn't agree on aspects of the tour" and "wanted to delay the tour" are two different things. And neither strike me as being sufficient reason.

[bombaysaffires]

Originally Posted by mikeymac

I came here expecting to see discussion on whether people believe Mick and speculation as to what really happened. To me, something is missing. Note what Mick is denying, denying that "Stevie was responsible" or that she "gave an ultimatum". I think he's walking a fine line here, and finds it appropriate to say "No" because he can twist the wording in his mind. But that's it? Just No?
He and Stevie's explanations remind me of what a gang would say after a hit: "Did one of you do this?"; "No, we all did". Just my opinion but I think there's more than they're saying. Right off the bat "couldn't agree on aspects of the tour" and "wanted to delay the tour" are two different things. And neither strike me as being sufficient reason.

yes, and the other part of the question they asked was about Stevie wanting Lindsey out because she wanted Mike in the band.

So he could have been parsing the question and answering the bit about her premeditatively wanting Mike in the band.

[KenshiMaster16]

Here is the simple answer; Mick is not the type of person to tell the truth of a situation to paparazzi, especially TMZ of all people. Mick is the type to update his autobiography with a new section based on this drama and reveal half truths and petty squabbles there.

The truth of the matter is we will never truly know what happened, only bits and bobs. This bands reputation and livelihood thrives off of drama and romanticism. Destroy that element of Stevie and Lindsey's contribution to the band by revealing how everything (potentially) ended for good and you dirty the legacy. However, I say potentially because of how 1997 went. Once the band suffers a flop, the Rumours line-up will be back. Nevermind what the rest of the band wants or doesnt want, I dont think Mick's ego can take a loss very well so potentially ending such a long career on a loss? Yeah, I dont think so.

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16

Here is the simple answer; Mick is not the type of person to tell the truth of a situation to paparazzi, especially TMZ of all people. Mick is the type to update his autobiography with a new section based on this drama and reveal half truths and petty squabbles there.

The truth of the matter is we will never truly know what happened, only bits and bobs. This bands reputation and livelihood thrives off of drama and romanticism. Destroy that element of Stevie and Lindsey's contribution to the band by revealing how everything (potentially) ended for good and you dirty the legacy. However, I say potentially because of how 1997 went. Once the band suffers a flop, the Rumours line-up will be back. Nevermind what the rest of the band wants or doesnt want, I dont think Mick's ego can take a loss very well so potentially ending such a long career on a loss? Yeah, I dont think so.

That last line holds so much truth to it. He does not want a farewell tour to end on this note, that I really do believe. And likely why he’s so resistant to using the word “fired”