Mick denies Stevie Nicks kicked Lindsey out of

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Why is someone who disagrees with you a troll? You're the one who is choosing to disbelieve all the media outlet's reporting (that Lindsey wanted to delay the tour until next year which led to his firing) and instead believe your "gut feeling". Your "evidence" is Rick Turner's facebook posts that he heard Lindsey was negotiating the timine of his solo tour with the Mac tour (which doesn't contradict the band's story) and Lindsey's wife supposed denials of the band's story (which I haven't seen and no one can find online). Again, I'm not saying that my facts are true. What I'm saying is that the current known evidence supports the band's story.

There goes your intellectually dishonest emphasis on the number of media outlets again...

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

There goes your intellectually dishonest emphasis on the number of media outlets again...

I think it's clear that you're not being intellectually honest.

Again ... I'm saying that the current evidence (media outlet reporting is part of this) overwhelmingly supports the band's story. Things could change if Lindsey does offer up his version of the story.

Evidence for:

Dozens of media outlet reports
Band's story
No denial from Lindsey's camp
Rolling stone senior writer report

Evidence against:

The gut feeling of folks on this forum

[sodascouts]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

I think it's clear that you're not being intellectually honest.

Again ... I'm saying that the current evidence (media outlet reporting is part of this) overwhelmingly supports the band's story. Things could change if Lindsey does offer up his version of the story.

Evidence for:

Dozens of media outlet reports
Band's story
No denial from Lindsey's camp
Rolling stone senior writer report

Evidence against:

The gut feeling of folks on this forum

Evidence for, evaluated:

Dozens of media outlet reports - intellectually dishonest to emphasize number of media reports; either you are choosing to continue to put forward the fallacious argument that the number of reports which present the band's story lends it additional credence, or you are not a very good communications teacher. It's the same as below.

Band's story - I have no problem with you believing this, actually. I don't find it realistic, but you do. Fine. I only have a problem with how agitated you are that other people DON'T buy it.

No [official] denial from Lindsey's camp - Again, I can see why you would cling to this.

Rolling stone senior writer report - this one is just the same as the "band's story" and the "media outlets." There was no new information. It's intellectually dishonest to try to make your reasons look more numerous by reframing them.

So, to sum up:

Evidence for: The band's story, which Lindsey has not directly contradicted with his own story.

Evidence against: the holes in logic, the video of Lindsey after MusiCares, the implication of Lindsey's quasi-statement, the implications of Kristen Buckingham's pointed social media posts, the social media posts by Rick Turner and Frederico Pol. (Someone let me know if I missed anything.)

It's as simple as who you believe, and which makes more sense to you. Take your pick.

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Evidence for, evaluated:

Dozens of media outlet reports - intellectually dishonest to emphasize number of media reports; either you are choosing to continue to put forward the fallacious argument that the number of reports which present the band's story lends it additional credence, or you are not a very good communications teacher. It's the same as below.

Band's story - I have no problem with you believing this, actually. I don't find it realistic, but you do. Fine. I only have a problem with how agitated you are that other people DON'T buy it.

No [official] denial from Lindsey's camp - Again, I can see why you would cling to this.

Rolling stone senior writer report - this one is just the same as the "band's story" and the "media outlets." There was no new information. It's intellectually dishonest to try to make your reasons look more numerous by reframing them.

So, to sum up:

Evidence for: The band's story, which Lindsey has not directly contradicted with his own story.

Evidence against: the holes in logic, the video of Lindsey after MusiCares, the implication of Lindsey's quasi-statement, the implications of Kristen Buckingham's pointed social media posts, the social media posts by Rick Turner and Frederico Pol. (Someone let me know if I missed anything.)

It's as simple as who you believe, and which makes more sense to you. Take your pick.

What did Rick and/or Federico say that contradicted the band's story? They believe that Lindsey got a raw deal but what did they say to contradict the band's account?

[elle]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

Rolling stone senior writer report - this one is just the same as the "band's story" and the "media outlets." There was no new information. It's intellectually dishonest to try to make your reasons look more numerous by reframing them.

also note that Andy Greene's report supports band narrative only if you selectively just go by the written article, but not if you listen to his actual commentary of the interview here https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/rol...=PPY8437307399 - his commentary is hilarious and implies band is lying.

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by elle

also note that Andy Greene's report supports band narrative only if you selectively just go by the written article, but not if you listen to his actual commentary of the interview here https://cms.megaphone.fm/channel/rol...=PPY8437307399 - his commentary is hilarious and implies band is lying.

That may be your interpretation. I've listened to the audio and I don't hear it that way. He said that this is the band's account which we know is the case.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by sodascouts

(Someone let me know if I missed anything.)

Didn’t Jimmy Paxson comment on it, too?

[elle]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Didn’t Jimmy Paxson comment on it, too?

someone said he did, but then deleted his post very fast. so i don't know whether he did or not.

people's comments were very clear too, when replying to claims that Lindsey was asking for huge delay bs. all these people started their comment with "wrong!"

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by elle

someone said he did, but then deleted his post very fast. so i don't know whether he did or not.

people's comments were very clear too, when replying to claims that Lindsey was asking for huge delay bs. all these people started their comment with "wrong!"

Please post one quote from someone who denies that Lindsey asked to delay the tour. Even Rick Turner said that Lindsey did ask to delay the tour but Rick said that someone told him that Lindsey had backed off that demand.

[Dr.Brown]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Please post one quote from someone who denies that Lindsey asked to delay the tour. Even Rick Turner said that Lindsey did ask to delay the tour but Rick said that someone told him that Lindsey had backed off that demand.

Please, here once again you're being deliberately obtuse. The issue isn't a delay - the issue is the claim made by your 'sources' and the narrative now being pushed that Lindsey was 'ugly worded' for demanding nearly a two year delay in touring. I can't imagine anyone of sound mind believing that Lindsey actually made such a demand.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Please post one quote from someone who denies that Lindsey asked to delay the tour. Even Rick Turner said that Lindsey did ask to delay the tour but Rick said that someone told him that Lindsey had backed off that demand.

ELLE can you please share the Federico Poll comment that you posted earlier?

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

Didn’t Jimmy Paxson comment on it, too?

Brian Larsen did too. And he’s spent some time with Lindsey very recently (according to his IG)