So...now what?

[elle]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

As an idea for the new lineup ... putting out something like a three song EP might cool off some of the animosity and drum up much needed support for the upcoming tour.

haha just seeing 3 videos of Neil Finn as possibly "Fleetwood Mac" music sent my animosity through the roof!

glad that support is "much needed" - i wouldn't worry, they will sell. just not to most of the people who used to be FM hardcores. but i saw Stevie solo fans who for the last decade wouldn't be caught dead at a FM show now planning to go to 20+ dates. so yeah, tix will sell, eventually. once the prices go down some more.

[AncientQueen]

Puhhh, Sugar Mouse. I understand that you like the guy and I have nothing bad to say about him as aperson and as an artist, but I don't see how he can bring enough energy onstage to wake up FM. They must re-arrange alot of their songs and with this mellow guy in charge of that, I fear it will become a rather dull event.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by AncientQueen

Puhhh, Sugar Mouse. I understand that you like the guy and I have nothing bad to say about him as aperson and as an artist, but I don't see how he can bring enough energy onstage to wake up FM. They must re-arrange alot of their songs and with this mellow guy in charge of that, I fear it will become a rather dull event.

He won't bring the same amount of energy, that's for sure. And that's not something bad to say about the guy. He's not Lindsey, that's all.
Anyway, I don't think he will stay much longer with the band other than the end of the US tour.

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by button-lip

He won't bring the same amount of energy, that's for sure. And that's not something bad to say about the guy. He's not Lindsey, that's all.
Anyway, I don't think he will stay much longer with the band other than the end of the US tour.

He's a talented talented guy...as is Mike Campbell--and they just took big ole bite out of a big "isht" sandwich. This drama they stepped into isn't their fault

[Angel75]

Originally Posted by button-lip

He won't bring the same amount of energy, that's for sure. And that's not something bad to say about the guy. He's not Lindsey, that's all.
Anyway, I don't think he will stay much longer with the band other than the end of the US tour.

He definitely won't bring the energy, no doubt. He's a mellow, chilled guy....he certainly doesn't walk around the stage, he's a totally different musician. There's not really any guitar players over 60 that come close to having LBs stage presence and stamina

[Storms123]

Originally Posted by AncientQueen

Puhhh, Sugar Mouse. I understand that you like the guy and I have nothing bad to say about him as aperson and as an artist, but I don't see how he can bring enough energy onstage to wake up FM. They must re-arrange alot of their songs and with this mellow guy in charge of that, I fear it will become a rather dull event.

Because he can't. and it will be a DULL DULL DULL event.. It will NOT be an FM show the die hards would expect. But don't worry "Don't dream it's NOT over" Stevie and Mick are here to save the day

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by Storms123

It will NOT be an FM show the die hards would expect. But don't worry "Don't dream it's NOT over" Stevie and Mick are here to save the day

I 100% agree- "it will NOT be a FM show the die hards would expect." That is one of the main reasons I'm really excited to see FM this year! It is definitely going to be a very different tour, perhaps even a once in a lifetime opportunity if it really is a farewell tour or if it bombs so badly they hang up their hats at the end. It could totally happen, we'll find out. But a show with Stevie, Christine, Neil, or Mike dull? I'm not worried about that at all. But missed cues, mistaken lyrics, Neil getting swatted in the eye by one of Stevie's fringe shawls because he's not used to her spinning like Lindsey is, these are all things that would actually be hilarious or welcomed, because it's like a new band, not the same stuff we've all seen a million times, live or on DVD or even vhs or beta LOL! Not that I want Neil to get poked in the eye, but you know what I mean.

[Dr.Brown]

Originally Posted by bwboy

...missed cues, mistaken lyrics, Neil getting swatted in the eye by one of Stevie's fringe shawls because he's not used to her spinning like Lindsey is, these are all things that would actually be hilarious or welcomed...

I'll be sure to keep an eye for these lowlights on Youtube. I'm certainly not wasting my money on such tripe.

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by AncientQueen

Puhhh, Sugar Mouse. I understand that you like the guy and I have nothing bad to say about him as aperson and as an artist, but I don't see how he can bring enough energy onstage to wake up FM. They must re-arrange alot of their songs and with this mellow guy in charge of that, I fear it will become a rather dull event.

Give Neil a chance. He's mega-talented. It is possible to adore both Lindsey and Neil.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

Give Neil a chance. He's mega-talented. It is possible to adore both Lindsey and Neil.

He could be Paul McCartney for all it matters. Given the circumstances of how he's been 'brought' into the band, it's only natural that many people won't really warm up to him. Respect and appreciate his talent sure, but still not be too happy that he's there.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by AncientQueen

Puhhh, Sugar Mouse. I understand that you like the guy and I have nothing bad to say about him as aperson and as an artist, but I don't see how he can bring enough energy onstage to wake up FM. They must re-arrange alot of their songs and with this mellow guy in charge of that, I fear it will become a rather dull event.

This 100%. Even if you don't consider who carried most of the weight in terms of stage energy, they're just going to have to change so much. Lindsey's guitar/the way he plays is sooooooo built into the FM sound.

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

This 100%. Even if you don't consider who carried most of the weight in terms of stage energy, they're just going to have to change so much. Lindsey's guitar/the way he plays is sooooooo built into the FM sound.

You don't have to sell me on Lindsey ... the guy is incredible. However, Neil Finn is also incredible. If you have to lose Lindsey, you can't do much better than Neil Finn.

Have you seen Neil perform? I've seen him many times including two nights earlier this month and he's a very energetic, passionate, charismatic lead man.

Don't believe me?

Check these out these two examples ...

The first clip is Neil killing it with Eddie Vedder (of Pearl Jam) singing Neil's old Split Enz song "History Never Repeats".

The second clip is Neil and his 7 Worlds Collide band performing a powerful version of his song "Suffer Never".

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

You don't have to sell me on Lindsey ... the guy is incredible. However, Neil Finn is also incredible. If you have to lose Lindsey, you can't do much better than Neil Finn.

Have you seen Neil perform? I've seen him many times including two nights earlier this month and he's a very energetic, passionate, charismatic lead man.

Don't believe me?

Check these out these two examples ...

The first clip is Neil killing it with Eddie Vedder (of Pearl Jam) singing Neil's old Split Enz song "History Never Repeats".

The second clip is Neil and his 7 Worlds Collide band performing a powerful version of his song "Suffer Never".

I don't mean talent. I'm sure he's very talented. Waddy Wachtel is a very talented musician but I've always thought he and his arrangements completely butchered songs like Sara and Gypsy on Stevie's solo tours. That's what I'm referring to. Lindsey is pretty specific in terms of his guitar and the way that he plays and it's a very, very essential part of the 'Fleetwood Mac' sound, especially in their live shows. They're going to have to change the arrangements of a lot of their songs and the way they've played those songs for years now. And that would be the same if it's Neil Finn or Eric Clapton being brought in.

[Sugar Mouse]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

I don't mean talent. I'm sure he's very talented. Waddy Wachtel is a very talented musician but I've always thought he and his arrangements completely butchered songs like Sara and Gypsy on Stevie's solo tours. That's what I'm referring to. Lindsey is pretty specific in terms of his guitar and the way that he plays and it's a very, very essential part of the 'Fleetwood Mac' sound, especially in their live shows. They're going to have to change the arrangements of a lot of their songs and the way they've played those songs for years now. And that would be the same if it's Neil Finn or Eric Clapton being brought in.

You may be right about that. However, I can tell you then ... Neil is a master arranger and performer. The songs may sound a bit different, but they will sound good. Really good.

And Mike Campbell is the main one who will be replacing Lindsey's guitar sounds and I bet Mike's up to the challenge. Mike is amazing.

And I guess I'm not attached to the songs sounding the same ... I'm just attached to them sounding good ... really good.

For example, have you heard Mike Campbell's version of "Oh Well"? He kills it ... comes really close to what Peter Green used to do. See below.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Sugar Mouse

You may be right about that. However, I can tell you then ... Neil is a master arranger and performer. The songs may sound a bit different, but they will sound good. Really good.

And Mike Campbell is the main one who will be replacing Lindsey's guitar sounds and I bet Mike's up to the challenge. Mike is amazing.

And I guess I'm not attached to the songs sounding the same ... I'm just attached to them sounding good ... really good.

For example, have you heard Mike Campbell's version of "Oh Well"? He kills it ... comes really close to what Peter Green used to do. See below.

I find it very ODD that you JUST joined the board... So you're Neil's wife, stalker, or something???