This Is An Outrage-Buckingham Departure

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by Feather Blade

Is this based on anything other than an passing comment someone made that there MAY be a lawsuit of some sort going on presently?

Why does it has to be a passing comment? Many people have known for two months this was coming. Were they wrong? No. So do they have to be wrong with the rest of the story? I don't think so.

[NotonRodeo]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Why does it has to be a passing comment? Many people have known for two months this was coming. Were they wrong? No. So do they have to be wrong with the rest of the story? I don't think so.

I personally was rather shocked to find out on Twitter that this news has been circulating in the FM community for that long. If it's two months that means the blow up must then have happened at MusiCares or soon after.

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by NotonRodeo

I personally was rather shocked to find out on Twitter that this news has been circulating in the FM community for that long. If it's two months that means the blow up must then have happened at MusiCares or soon after.

His daughter who WAS there was posting glowing things on Instagram about Stevie the day after Musicares. I doubt it happened there.

[Lola]

I wish I knew more about the Musicares "fight" or whatever. When I watched a live stream of the event I thought it was great and I liked what LB said about love under the dysfunction. Stevie mostly talked about Tom Petty but ok, I figured she's say something about him. What the hell could have been so bad?!

[NotonRodeo]

I must say I'm confused. After reading all these threads, then FB, Twitter, and IG I haven't a clue about what actually happened, and the more I read the less I understand. So if y'all don't mind I'd just like to ask some questions?

a. If the fight wasn't at Musicares then when did it happen? What was it about? Is it true it was about Lindsey's solo album, or is that just a face-saving tale to cover up the rather unpalatable truth, which must be really petty?

b. Did Mick actually conduct a poll of producers to see who they would prefer? If so, did he really expect them to side with Lindsey, when they know Stevie can fill more seats? Was this a tactic to slough off responsibility to someone else besides him?

c. Is there a lawsuit pending? Did Lindsey try to force the band to retain him? In other words, did he try to fight back?

I know given this band's tenuous relationship with the truth the facts will never be known, but a general summary would be nice

[bwboy]

Originally Posted by NotonRodeo

I must say I'm confused. After reading all these threads, then FB, Twitter, and IG I haven't a clue about what actually happened, and the more I read the less I understand. So if y'all don't mind I'd just like to ask some questions?

a. If the fight wasn't at Musicares then when did it happen? What was it about? Is it true it was about Lindsey's solo album, or is that just a face-saving tale to cover up the rather unpalatable truth, which must be really petty?

b. Did Mick actually conduct a poll of producers to see who they would prefer? If so, did he really expect them to side with Lindsey, when they know Stevie can fill more seats? Was this a tactic to slough off responsibility to someone else besides him?

c. Is there a lawsuit pending? Did Lindsey try to force the band to retain him? In other words, did he try to fight back?

I know given this band's tenuous relationship with the truth the facts will never be known, but a general summary would be nice

NotonRodeo, those are all great questions that we would all love to know the answers to, and I'm certain we'll hear at least two different versions soon. But if anyone on this message board tries to answer your questions, just remember that they have no way of knowing and are engaging in pure speculation. I really want to hear what Lindsey has to say, not what posters here say they think happened.

[lilyfee]

Originally Posted by NotonRodeo

I must say I'm confused. After reading all these threads, then FB, Twitter, and IG I haven't a clue about what actually happened, and the more I read the less I understand. So if y'all don't mind I'd just like to ask some questions?

a. If the fight wasn't at Musicares then when did it happen? What was it about? Is it true it was about Lindsey's solo album, or is that just a face-saving tale to cover up the rather unpalatable truth, which must be really petty?

b. Did Mick actually conduct a poll of producers to see who they would prefer? If so, did he really expect them to side with Lindsey, when they know Stevie can fill more seats? Was this a tactic to slough off responsibility to someone else besides him?

c. Is there a lawsuit pending? Did Lindsey try to force the band to retain him? In other words, did he try to fight back?

I know given this band's tenuous relationship with the truth the facts will never be known, but a general summary would be nice

I agree with you 100%... All of these questions NEED ANSWERS!

As I understand it, there have been rumors about ongoing conflicts delaying the upcoming tour for the past few months. We don't know the circumstances of Lindsey's dismissal/firing, however several news outlets are reporting that he either left or was fired by Mick after he wanted to push the FM world tour for his solo album and/or tour.

Lindsey's daughter, Leelee, posted an instagram message when the news broke, saying something to the effect of "There's no Fleetwood Mac without you [Lindsey]. #prouddaughter." Fans have interpreted this to mean that Lindsey was, in fact, fired from the band, especially since Leelee has publicly liked fan messages of support for Lindsey that also criticize Stevie and/or Mick.

Regarding Lindsey fighting back, I read a previous poster's comment to mean that since Lindsey rejoined the band after leaving before, he was in for good this time and would not leave again of his own volition. Not that he was actively trying to get back in the band right now. As far as I can tell, the Lindsey lawsuit and Mick and/or Stevie and/or Stevie's management forcing tour promotors to choose between Stevie and Lindsey are just fan speculation at this time.

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As I've said in numerous other posts, I don't see any incentive - financially or otherwise - for Stevie to have Lindsey thrown out of the band. Her entire narrative on tour, from the scripted interactions with Lindsey during certain songs, to her long Gypsy speech, to turning her microphone towards him during Silver Springs, revolves around their "love affair" onstage relationship.

And even if Stevie just wanted the spotlight (meaning she wants to change the going through the motions/"cash cow" script mentioned above), surely even she would know that Fleetwood Mac would sell more, and higher priced, tickets, with the classic lineup. So if she's just plain financially greedy that doesn't make sense to me either. Maybe someone can flesh out the anti-Stevie conspiracies.

For now, all I can guess is that tempers flared over something petty, as you suggested, NotonRodeo, and some kind of ultimatum was issued by either Mick or Lindsey.

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by secondhandchain

His daughter who WAS there was posting glowing things on Instagram about Stevie the day after Musicares. I doubt it happened there.

I doubt they would fight in front of Lindsey's children.

[Feather Blade]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Why does it has to be a passing comment? Many people have known for two months this was coming. Were they wrong? No. So do they have to be wrong with the rest of the story? I don't think so.

So an official source has stated that Lindsey is/was trying to get back into the band somehow? Can you clarify your earlier comment? I'm confused. Thanks...

[gldstwmn]

Originally Posted by Feather Blade

So an official source has stated that Lindsey is/was trying to get back into the band somehow? Can you clarify your earlier comment? I'm confused. Thanks...

It's complete bulls&&it.

[button-lip]

Originally Posted by NotonRodeo

I personally was rather shocked to find out on Twitter that this news has been circulating in the FM community for that long. If it's two months that means the blow up must then have happened at MusiCares or soon after.

Originally Posted by Feather Blade

So an official source has stated that Lindsey is/was trying to get back into the band somehow? Can you clarify your earlier comment? I'm confused. Thanks...

Same source/s that confirmed the blow up and the disagreement on the FM tour dates vs. solo tour dates. Was trying. I don't know if he is now.

[Lola]

Originally Posted by button-lip

Same source/s that confirmed the blow up and the disagreement on the FM tour dates vs. solo tour dates. Was trying. I don't know if he is now.

Do you mean Joe Compton on the Mike Campbell Facebook fan page? What a travesty this is. I never thought Chris would come back and we'd get a BuckVie album. This is so drastic--if anyone had told me that LB would be fired in 2018 I would have said no way in hell.