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Old 05-30-2017, 09:39 AM
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I'm thinking this song is much more about Stevie than the other one...and I hate the whole soap opera thing....but those lyrics...
that's interesting how we all hear completely different things. out of all his songs, this particular one never ever struck me to have anything to do with SN. it always reminded me of Christine, from the first listen.

person he's talking about is British (listen to pronounciations and phrases - "give you a frown"). and definitely not a US citizen.
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that's interesting how we all hear completely different things. out of all his songs, this particular one never ever struck me to have anything to do with SN. it always reminded me of Christine, from the first listen.

person he's talking about is British (listen to pronounciations and phrases - "give you a frown"). and definitely not a US citizen.
In My World, feels so Stevie to me. SATC doesn't strike me as about Stevie.

I do like the Christine theory.
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Old 05-30-2017, 10:17 AM
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In My World, feels so Stevie to me. SATC doesn't strike me as about Stevie.

I do like the Christine theory.
In My World is no doubt Stevie and i guess her not-in-not-out without clearly expressing what she would like attitude towards FM.
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In My World is no doubt Stevie and i guess her not-in-not-out without clearly expressing what she would like attitude towards FM.
Agreed. IMW is def about Stevie.

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that's interesting how we all hear completely different things. out of all his songs, this particular one never ever struck me to have anything to do with SN. it always reminded me of Christine, from the first listen.

person he's talking about is British (listen to pronounciations and phrases - "give you a frown"). and definitely not a US citizen.
Maybe it's a cultural thang but I hear Afro-Caribbean dialect.

So the only thing Christine about it is a reference to her Halloween costume in 1978.

Anyway, I looooove the theory that it is about Stevie (don't they have a secret tunnel connecting their houses which are just around the corner from each other?)... but I think it's about him juggling family and art.

I know I've said this before, but I'm just recapping last week's installment of the soap opera.

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Agreed. IMW is def about Stevie.



Maybe it's a cultural thang but I hear Afro-Caribbean dialect.

So the only thing Christine about it is a reference to her Halloween costume in 1978.

Anyway, I looooove the theory that it is about Stevie (don't they have a secret tunnel connecting their houses which are just around the corner from each other?)... but I think it's about him juggling family and art.

I know I've said this before, but I'm just recapping last week's installment of the soap opera.

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"Feel About You" -- who is THAT about??!
jelly, lol
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jelly, lol
remember when they talked about Christine's new lyrics and how she said she wasn't sure what to write about and Lindsey told her "just write about sex!" - maybe she took his advice?
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remember when they talked about Christine's new lyrics and how she said she wasn't sure what to write about and Lindsey told her "just write about sex!" - maybe she took his advice?
Ooooh that's good. Where did that come from?
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In My World is no doubt Stevie and i guess her not-in-not-out without clearly expressing what she would like attitude towards FM.
It doesn't hold back.
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that's interesting how we all hear completely different things. out of all his songs, this particular one never ever struck me to have anything to do with SN. it always reminded me of Christine, from the first listen.

person he's talking about is British (listen to pronounciations and phrases - "give you a frown"). and definitely not a US citizen.
'she called to me,' meet me at the border'
'wake me up when our papers are in order'
sounds like the tour.

also, the whole 'sleeping around the corner'....didn't they have nearby hotel rooms?

you are right tho that it could be Christine.

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'she called to me,' meet me at the border'
'wake me up when our papers are in order'
sounds like the tour.

also, the whole 'sleeping around the corner'....didn't they have nearby hotel rooms?
good point.
(our papers or my papers? i always heard my papers but might be wrong)

no idea. there seem to be a lot of stories about various Mac members staying in different hotels.
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'she called to me,' meet me at the border'
'wake me up when our papers are in order'
sounds like the tour.

also, the whole 'sleeping around the corner'....didn't they have nearby hotel rooms?

you are right tho that it could be Christine.
I just don't find Lindsey's lyrics to be so literal to real events in the way Stevie's are....I mean he can do sometimes, but often, by his own admission, his lyrics come really late in the game and he often just goes with what sounds good or fits, without having any deep meaningful story he's trying to tell. Bits and pieces might have some correlation with something real and other bits are just what fit rhythmically and rhyme. He's a composer moreso than a writer, whereas Stevie is more a writer than a composer. He's more like Christine... as she said on Johnny Walker, she just makes up stories around some small kernel of something true... and her example was Over My Head, and how it was based originally on Lindsey... how he was difficult to work with and moody "you can take me to paradise/then again you can be cold as ice" and she wove it into the structure of a story about a relationship because that is the style of song she excels at. So you couldn't say "oh this is about her and John breaking up" or "this is about her and Lindsey having an affair" or something, because neither is really true....but both of those explanations could make sense. But as she said "I just make up stories" to provide a narrative for a catchy song. I think he mostly does the same these days.
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I just don't find Lindsey's lyrics to be so literal to real events in the way Stevie's are....I mean he can do sometimes, but often, by his own admission, his lyrics come really late in the game and he often just goes with what sounds good or fits, without having any deep meaningful story he's trying to tell. Bits and pieces might have some correlation with something real and other bits are just what fit rhythmically and rhyme. He's a composer moreso than a writer, whereas Stevie is more a writer than a composer. He's more like Christine... as she said on Johnny Walker, she just makes up stories around some small kernel of something true... and her example was Over My Head, and how it was based originally on Lindsey... how he was difficult to work with and moody "you can take me to paradise/then again you can be cold as ice" and she wove it into the structure of a story about a relationship because that is the style of song she excels at. So you couldn't say "oh this is about her and John breaking up" or "this is about her and Lindsey having an affair" or something, because neither is really true....but both of those explanations could make sense. But as she said "I just make up stories" to provide a narrative for a catchy song. I think he mostly does the same these days.
yes, exactly. composer is the word i think i've been looking for awhile without even knowing, in reference to LB and CM!

when i say this song reminds me of Christine, i don't see it as them literally having an affair. i just see him randomly inserting references to past songs and adding lyrics about sex on top of some real event that happened - like somebody said, perhaps sorting out working visa or some such documents to be able to perform with FM.
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yes, exactly. composer is the word i think i've been looking for awhile without even knowing, in reference to LB and CM!

when i say this song reminds me of Christine, i don't see it as them literally having an affair. i just see him randomly inserting references to past songs and adding lyrics about sex on top of some real event that happened - like somebody said, perhaps sorting out working visa or some such documents to be able to perform with FM.
gotcha.

And I'm thinking that he fit in "papers are in order" coz it happened to rhyme with "meet me at the border" and that he liked "meet me at the border" coz it just makes an intriguing story of a clandestine relationship or something...which could be something with Stevie, though realistically, given their tension those days are long, long gone in reality... they just make good stories and titillate people.

it could have something to do with his wife......for example, she runs a couple of her businesses (design and horses) and let's say, maybe she was just getting some papers together and he liked the phrase "papers are in order" and constructed a story, and "meet me at the border" rhymed with the first line and he's off, creating a new story.

I tend to think his writing is more in that vein versus like reading his diary. I know that's a lot less romantic and doesn't support shipping, but there ya go.
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