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View Poll Results: Will Buckingham Mcvie outsell 24KG in week 1? (33,000 copies)
Yes 32 45.07%
No 39 54.93%
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Old 04-11-2017, 08:11 PM
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No, it probably wont outsell 24kG, but I don't care.
Lindsey Buckingham/Christine McVie will probably struggle to break the top 20, but I don't care.
Exactly. They're not doing it for the money. I'm hoping the music is really good. That's what I want.
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Old 04-11-2017, 08:18 PM
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I could care less how many copies it sells. Sales are not a barometer for the success of this record. I only care about the quality of the music, that is how I and all fans should be assessing this record.
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Old 04-11-2017, 09:50 PM
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There is a major factor at play here as to which album will sell better. First and foremost, I think it's important to note that "24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault" was the LAST album that Stevie owed Warner/Reprise to complete her contract. The album was only recorded with the imposed deadline to complete her obligation to the label and bring her contract to an end. That being said, Warner/Reprise had no intention of launching a huge promotional push to sell the record. Thanks to Warner's lackluster promotion, "24 KG" was intentionally dead on arrival. This is sadly a common practice in the world of major label deals. When a label sees that it has nothing more to gain from an artist, they usually cut their losses and complete the contract with no promotion for the last record.

By contrast, it is my understanding that the NEW Buckingham/McVie record will be released by Atlantic Records. Thus, I'm assuming that Atlantic signed the duo to some sort of NEW deal. I'm not sure if the label thinks it will get to release any future Fleetwood Mac projects. Maybe they are hoping this "pet project" by the duo will turn into something greater.

My point is that the new Buckingham/McVie album will benefit from greater promotion from the label. This will surely translate into better sales. However, if this duo's record was up against a new Stevie album with full scale promotion from a major label, there's no way they would outsell Stevie, especially without the Fleetwood Mac name.
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:47 AM
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There is a major factor at play here as to which album will sell better. First and foremost, I think it's important to note that "24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault" was the LAST album that Stevie owed Warner/Reprise to complete her contract. The album was only recorded with the imposed deadline to complete her obligation to the label and bring her contract to an end. That being said, Warner/Reprise had no intention of launching a huge promotional push to sell the record. Thanks to Warner's lackluster promotion, "24 KG" was intentionally dead on arrival. This is sadly a common practice in the world of major label deals. When a label sees that it has nothing more to gain from an artist, they usually cut their losses and complete the contract with no promotion for the last record.

By contrast, it is my understanding that the NEW Buckingham/McVie record will be released by Atlantic Records. Thus, I'm assuming that Atlantic signed the duo to some sort of NEW deal. I'm not sure if the label thinks it will get to release any future Fleetwood Mac projects. Maybe they are hoping this "pet project" by the duo will turn into something greater.

My point is that the new Buckingham/McVie album will benefit from greater promotion from the label. This will surely translate into better sales. However, if this duo's record was up against a new Stevie album with full scale promotion from a major label, there's no way they would outsell Stevie, especially without the Fleetwood Mac name.
Bingo! If they had gone with Warner Brothers, I would have said no way....it's just going to be tossed out there, with dire results.
Atlantic, on the other hand, still works their acts, and they seem to have a plan for this album....there's a single out this week, the pre-order is up (Warners has gotten VERY lazy with their pre-orders, often waiting until just four to six weeks before the release date to put them up)....if radio gets behind the single (and that's a tall order these days!), they just might pull it off!
A good video would also help!
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Old 04-12-2017, 05:57 AM
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There is a major factor at play here as to which album will sell better. First and foremost, I think it's important to note that "24 Karat Gold: Songs From The Vault" was the LAST album that Stevie owed Warner/Reprise to complete her contract. The album was only recorded with the imposed deadline to complete her obligation to the label and bring her contract to an end. That being said, Warner/Reprise had no intention of launching a huge promotional push to sell the record. Thanks to Warner's lackluster promotion, "24 KG" was intentionally dead on arrival. This is sadly a common practice in the world of major label deals. When a label sees that it has nothing more to gain from an artist, they usually cut their losses and complete the contract with no promotion for the last record.

By contrast, it is my understanding that the NEW Buckingham/McVie record will be released by Atlantic Records. Thus, I'm assuming that Atlantic signed the duo to some sort of NEW deal. I'm not sure if the label thinks it will get to release any future Fleetwood Mac projects. Maybe they are hoping this "pet project" by the duo will turn into something greater.

My point is that the new Buckingham/McVie album will benefit from greater promotion from the label. This will surely translate into better sales. However, if this duo's record was up against a new Stevie album with full scale promotion from a major label, there's no way they would outsell Stevie, especially without the Fleetwood Mac name.
One other thing that I don't think has ever been mentioned/addressed.....on three or four albums SINCE the release of 24KG, Stevie is still given a courtesy credit of WB/Reprise.
If she were a free agent, as should be the case, after wrapping up her current contract with 24KG, this wouldn't be necessary....she might get a courtesy credit of (making this up here!) Welsh Witch Productions.....or, more realistically, nothing at all.
Has anyone heard of her (sadly!) reupping with WB?
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#15 based on one day of pre-orders. Is that a good sign?

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-..._dp_ts_music_1
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#15 based on one day of pre-orders. Is that a good sign?

https://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-..._dp_ts_music_1
Not bad.. it was 91 early in the day.
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I think Buckingham McVie will outsell simply because already the promotion is better. Maybe not in a week, but I do think their toned down approach is working. Stevie tries to promote her albums by doing morning shows and singing competitions, but IMHO that doesn't target the right audience. In the internet age, releasing cover art and a single while new articles are published every couple of weeks months in advance is a good way to get people's attention. We have the time to get excited for it and two FM writers/players teaming up is mysterious enough that I think people will at least want to hear it, at the very least music snobs in addition to fans. I agree that Stevie's label does next to nothing to promote her. Sadly, as none of them use social media, they are missing out on a great publicity opportunity.
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By contrast, it is my understanding that the NEW Buckingham/McVie record will be released by Atlantic Records. Thus, I'm assuming that Atlantic signed the duo to some sort of NEW deal. I'm not sure if the label thinks it will get to release any future Fleetwood Mac projects. Maybe they are hoping this "pet project" by the duo will turn into something greater.
Not sure how the Atlantic Records connection happened (other than the innacurate description on Amazon, which states under Label: Rhino), but this release is not Atlantic Records, but Warner Bros.

The actual CD in the photo has the Warner Music logo on it. Both the CD and iTunes (USA) state this:
2017 LMJC Productions, LLC & Merry Go Round Recording Inc under license to East West Records, a division of Warner Music UK Limited
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Not sure how the Atlantic Records connection happened (other than the innacurate description on Amazon, which states under Label: Rhino), but this release is not Atlantic Records, but Warner Bros.

The actual CD in the photo has the Warner Music logo on it. Both the CD and iTunes (USA) state this:
2017 LMJC Productions, LLC & Merry Go Round Recording Inc under license to East West Records, a division of Warner Music UK Limited
The album is on Atlantic here in the States.
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Old 04-17-2017, 03:09 PM
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Exactly. They're not doing it for the money. I'm hoping the music is really good. That's what I want.
Just wondering then, are they doing it gratis??
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