Tango Deluxe Release Ledgie Reviews and Comments

[sorcerer999]

While I'm ecstatic in finally having crisp, clear sounding versions of the complete "You and I", "Ricky" and "Book Of Miracles", I can't help but be a bit disappointed and underwhelmed by this Deluxe Edition, at least compared to the three AMAZING sets we've gotten in year's past. All the demos, outtakes and alternates aren't very interesting to me personally, ESPECIALLY the Nicks outtakes. "Ooh My Love" is one of my favorites from TOSOTM, but sounds horrendous here, as does the "Juliet" run through. If these were the best "takes" culled from the Masters, I'd hate to hear what the others sounded like. Chris and Lindsey's outtakes are sub par to my ears as well...but the "Mystified" Instrumental is definitely a keeper.

So now I'm having buyer's remorse for shelling out a bunch of money for less than five songs that I'm happy with. LOL! Well, that AND the liner notes and pictures. Such is the curse for being a "completionist"!

I don't care much for the music videos and 12" remixes. And I don't hear many nuances in the remastering process with the actual album itself. Not that it matters. "Tango" is my least favorite "Rumours-Era Line up" album anyway. I'm just looking forward to a DELUXE 1975 WHITE ALBUM now! They've GOT to do one for for that one, right??? (Again with the "completionist" anxieties...)

I guess I'm in the minority in regards to the Deluxe Tango, huh? Is anyone else out there unimpressed with this one? I can't be the only one.

And (as always) this is just my opinion.

[Nathan]

I actually asked iTunes for a refund for Ooh My Love. It's just so bad. For me, the only redeeming part are the last 10 seconds or so.

The Juliet Run-Through, I think is great. As is Book of Miracles, and the Dub Remix of Seven Wonders. Those are the only four I've bought so far.

[jbrownsjr]

Originally Posted by Nathan

I actually asked iTunes for a refund for Ooh My Love. It's just so bad. For me, the only redeeming part are the last 10 seconds or so.

The Juliet Run-Through, I think is great. As is Book of Miracles, and the Dub Remix of Seven Wonders. Those are the only four I've bought so far.

her vocal on that song is insufferable..

[KenB]

Has anyone else noticed that one of the photos from the original release isn't present on the new edition -- or at least the 2-CD version, which is the one I bought. It's the shot that was on the back of the original CD traycard: the five members in the pink-and-blue pastel room, but with each member posed in a way that hides their faces, with Mick standing and the others lying on the floor. I liked that shot.

Apart from Tusk, I think this is my favorite of the reissues. The Tango b-sides were always some of my favorites (especially Down Endless Street and Ricky). And it's cool to hear what could have been Mac versions of Juliet and Ooh My Love. Unlike others here, I LOVE the roots-rocking run-through of Juliet. Keeping in mind that this wasn't intended to be the finished track, it shows what could have been. To my ears it would have been far superior to the TOSOTM version. Ooh My Love, on the other hand, I prefer the TOSOTM version.

[TrueFaith77]

I think 24K Gold is her most enjoyable album ever.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by sorcerer999

While I'm ecstatic in finally having crisp, clear sounding versions of the complete "You and I", "Ricky" and "Book Of Miracles", I can't help but be a bit disappointed and underwhelmed by this Deluxe Edition, at least compared to the three AMAZING sets we've gotten in year's past. All the demos, outtakes and alternates aren't very interesting to me personally, ESPECIALLY the Nicks outtakes. "Ooh My Love" is one of my favorites from TOSOTM, but sounds horrendous here, as does the "Juliet" run through. If these were the best "takes" culled from the Masters, I'd hate to hear what the others sounded like. Chris and Lindsey's outtakes are sub par to my ears as well...but the "Mystified" Instrumental is definitely a keeper.

So now I'm having buyer's remorse for shelling out a bunch of money for less than five songs that I'm happy with. LOL! Well, that AND the liner notes and pictures. Such is the curse for being a "completionist"!

I don't care much for the music videos and 12" remixes. And I don't hear many nuances in the remastering process with the actual album itself. Not that it matters. "Tango" is my least favorite "Rumours-Era Line up" album anyway. I'm just looking forward to a DELUXE 1975 WHITE ALBUM now! They've GOT to do one for for that one, right??? (Again with the "completionist" anxieties...)

I guess I'm in the minority in regards to the Deluxe Tango, huh? Is anyone else out there unimpressed with this one? I can't be the only one.

And (as always) this is just my opinion.

When the release was first announced I was sort of flamed here by stating there was not enough "new" or unreleased songs that would make a re-release special. I knew they would never release any live songs without Lindsey. In some strange way, the re-release is about as exciting as the original release in my book. There are definitely some great songs and special moments. However they are way to far between in my book. The Tusk re-release was out of this world with unheard live tracks and different versions of the songs. Mirage was decent but no new live tracks. The HBO concert can only go so far.
One interesting thing about Tango is that its considered to be the Mac's second most successful album (I would question that because the Dance went to #1 and sold just as many copies I believe). However, the album only sold 3 million copies in the United States. In 1987 for an album to have 2 top 5 singles and 2 top 20 singles that is actually poor sales. In the late 80's they changed the way album sales were tabulated and album rankings were also changed. If you remember the Garth Brooks/Motley Crue controversy (if you are too young google it). Tango peaked at #7 which tells you sales were sluggish. Please don't flame me I am not knocking the album or the sales. I am stating that the sales were bleak compared to radio airplay vs other artists. It no doubt was a hit album and a success but it did not attract many new Mac fans. The songs got airplay and intense heavy play on MTV but people were not flocking to buy the album. It only sold just over 2 million copies in the late 80s and took until the year 2000 for it to be certified 3x platinum.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

When the release was first announced I was sort of flamed here by stating there was not enough "new" or unreleased songs that would make a re-release special. I knew they would never release any live songs without Lindsey. In some strange way, the re-release is about as exciting as the original release in my book. There are definitely some great songs and special moments. However they are way to far between in my book. The Tusk re-release was out of this world with unheard live tracks and different versions of the songs. Mirage was decent but no new live tracks. The HBO concert can only go so far.
One interesting thing about Tango is that its considered to be the Mac's second most successful album (I would question that because the Dance went to #1 and sold just as many copies I believe). However, the album only sold 3 million copies in the United States. In 1987 for an album to have 2 top 5 singles and 2 top 20 singles that is actually poor sales. In the late 80's they changed the way album sales were tabulated and album rankings were also changed. If you remember the Garth Brooks/Motley Crue controversy (if you are too young google it). Tango peaked at #7 which tells you sales were sluggish. Please don't flame me I am not knocking the album or the sales. I am stating that the sales were bleak compared to radio airplay vs other artists. It no doubt was a hit album and a success but it did not attract many new Mac fans. The songs got airplay but people were not flocking to buy the album.

Well the world isn't just the US. From what I've read, Tango also did very well in Europe, particularly the UK.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by dreamsunwind

Well the world isn't just the US. From what I've read, Tango also did very well in Europe, particularly the UK.

That was NOT what I said. I made no comparisons to other countries and never implied the United States is the rest of the world. YES, Tango did extremely well in the UK and sold almost as many copies there as the United States. However the sales make sense there because there were hit singles. I was pointing out the sales did not back the radio and MTV play in the United States.

[dreamsunwind]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

That was NOT what I said. I made no comparisons to other countries and never implied the United States is the rest of the world. YES, Tango did extremely well in the UK and sold almost as many copies there as the United States. However the sales make sense there because there were hit singles. I was pointing out the sales did not back the radio and MTV play in the United States.

I know, but then odds are the reason it's regarded as their second most successful album is because of the success it had over there.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

Mirage was decent but no new live tracks. The HBO concert can only go so far.

That is my number one complaint about Mirage. Just putting the HBO concert out was sheer laziness. I mean, I know that it had tons of overdubs, and sounded very polished, but I was VERY disappointed that they couldn't give us an ACTUAL live show(NOT a bunch of overdubs - which HBO is).

[Wdm6789]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

That is my number one complaint about Mirage. Just putting the HBO concert out was sheer laziness. I mean, I know that it had tons of overdubs, and sounded very polished, but I was VERY disappointed that they couldn't give us an ACTUAL live show(NOT a bunch of overdubs - which HBO is).

I agree, I was very disappointed we didn't get the full 1982 set on deluxe Mirage. Some of the performances they put on the deluxe Tusk were not that great either. They should have used better live performances on Tusk deluxe, full 1982 set on Mirage deluxe.

[HomerMcvie]

Originally Posted by Wdm6789

I agree, I was very disappointed we didn't get the full 1982 set on deluxe Mirage. Some of the performances they put on the deluxe Tusk were not that great either. They should have used better live performances on Tusk deluxe, full 1982 set on Mirage deluxe.

I wanted an actual LIVE show. Watch the Mirage DVD, and almost all the guitar solos have been replaced. His hands don't match what's being played! I want to hear the real thing, warts and all...

[secondhandchain]

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie

I wanted an actual LIVE show. Watch the Mirage DVD, and almost all the guitar solos have been replaced. His hands don't match what's being played! I want to hear the real thing, warts and all...

On the dance you clearly hear Stevie singing with herself MANY times.

[SteveMacD]

Originally Posted by Macfan4life

When the release was first announced I was sort of flamed here by stating there was not enough "new" or unreleased songs that would make a re-release special. I knew they would never release any live songs without Lindsey. In some strange way, the re-release is about as exciting as the original release in my book. There are definitely some great songs and special moments. However they are way to far between in my book. The Tusk re-release was out of this world with unheard live tracks and different versions of the songs. Mirage was decent but no new live tracks. The HBO concert can only go so far.
One interesting thing about Tango is that its considered to be the Mac's second most successful album (I would question that because the Dance went to #1 and sold just as many copies I believe). However, the album only sold 3 million copies in the United States. In 1987 for an album to have 2 top 5 singles and 2 top 20 singles that is actually poor sales. In the late 80's they changed the way album sales were tabulated and album rankings were also changed. If you remember the Garth Brooks/Motley Crue controversy (if you are too young google it). Tango peaked at #7 which tells you sales were sluggish. Please don't flame me I am not knocking the album or the sales. I am stating that the sales were bleak compared to radio airplay vs other artists. It no doubt was a hit album and a success but it did not attract many new Mac fans. The songs got airplay and intense heavy play on MTV but people were not flocking to buy the album. It only sold just over 2 million copies in the late 80s and took until the year 2000 for it to be certified 3x platinum.

It's sold 15 million copies worldwide, and spent seven months in the top 20.

[Macfan4life]

Originally Posted by SteveMacD

It's sold 15 million copies worldwide, and spent seven months in the top 20.

***Bangs head against the wall****
You missed my point too. Get out of the cocoon of that you think I am saying the album was not a success. Don't be so defensive. In the late 80s some albums sold 4-5 million copies in the USA with one top ten hit sometimes. 2 million for the heavy MTV play and the number of hits the album had was extremely weak. And that is not even counting the buzz that came with the album being the first Mac album in half a decade.